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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 18:29:23 +0100
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Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Karaf marketing
From: Fabian Lange <fabian.lange@codecentric.de>
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Hi,

I did not want to comment, but my new involvement with Karaf demands for it
:)

The only thing I do not like as much is the homepage/landingpage/startpage.

The 3 columns do not attract me. The content could be a bit catchier, but
most importantly, I think the graphics (rubix, gears, cloud) do not make
much sense connected to the text. I would rather remove the graphics.

The scrolling "news" scroll too fast. Or better: unpredictably. Sometimes
they seem to be stuck, sometimes they move very fast. I think I would
rather prefer to navigate the news manually. Edit: oh i can swipe it
manually, guess that needs some kind of indication.

Overall it is much nicer and modern than the old site. great work

Fabian


On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 6:12 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9 <jb@nanthrax.net=
>
wrote:

> I will start the vote for the new website tomorrow (I will update the
> website proposal tonight, I fixed couple of things).
>
> As reminder, there's the proposal website:
> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 01/07/2016 10:09 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9 wrote:
>
>> It sounds good ;)
>>
>> Let me polish couple things (couple of links are broken) and I will
>> start the vote.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 01/07/2016 10:07 AM, Serge Huber wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 7 janv. 2016, at 08:05, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9 <jb@nanthrax.net> =
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Serge,
>>>>
>>>> I applied your two proposals and updated the website on my server.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just saw that, very cool !
>>>
>>>
>>>> It looks better to me as well (I don't see a huge change about
>>>> line-height, but border-radius is fine).
>>>>
>>>
>>> The line-height fixes the problem of the list on the home page under
>>> =E2=80=9CProjects=E2=80=9D that has the lines too close together becaus=
e the
>>> line-height was set to 20px and the font-size is 18px, leaving only
>>> 2px between lines. Letting it back to its default fixes that problem.
>>>
>>> The border-radius also makes it more consistent with the look of the
>>> buttons that also have rounded corners.
>>>
>>> Let=E2=80=99s vote now :) Let=E2=80=99s get this thing published :)
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>    Serge=E2=80=A6
>>>
>>>
>>>> Morgan also requested to add more space bottom to the top menu.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 01/06/2016 09:44 PM, Serge Huber wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I really like it but some little details have been bugging me, the
>>>>> line spacing of lists. I looked at the CSS and noticed you have a
>>>>> line-height: 20px set that seems very weird on the home page. I
>>>>> tested by deactivating it (removing it) and it seems the default
>>>>> setting works better on the pages I tested.
>>>>>
>>>>> It=E2=80=99s really a detail though :)
>>>>>
>>>>> I also tried adding a border-radius on the home page titles :
>>>>>
>>>>> .homepage-subtitle, .homepage-title {
>>>>>     background: rgba(52,48,45,.8);
>>>>>     color: #f1f1f1;
>>>>>     display: inline-block;
>>>>>     border-radius: 5px;
>>>>>     -webkit-border-radius: 5px;
>>>>>     -moz-border-radius: 5px;
>>>>> }
>>>>>
>>>>> I find it a little less rough but again that=E2=80=99s personal prefe=
rence :)
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>    Serge=E2=80=A6
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 janv. 2016, at 18:17, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9 <jb@nanthrax.net=
>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I updated the new website proposal on my server:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please, don't forget to update your browser cache (using
>>>>>> CTRL-SHIFT-R on Firefox for instance).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to start a vote tomorrow, so please, take a tour and
>>>>>> send your feedbacks to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks !
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/12/2015 07:54 AM, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already discussed with some of you about my plan on Karaf
>>>>>>> marketing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think clearly that we had a great project, a great team, a great
>>>>>>> tool,
>>>>>>> but we're not really good in term of promotion and marketing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Especially, we have to be clear in the message and the projects
>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>> deliver. For instance, again, I'm sure that karaf-boot is a huge st=
ep
>>>>>>> forward in Karaf adoption. I'm not sure that all users are aware an=
d
>>>>>>> know the purpose of Cellar, Cave, Decanter, and even some Karaf
>>>>>>> areas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In order to improve the Karaf marketing area, I would like to propo=
se
>>>>>>> the following plan:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. More professional website
>>>>>>> I think we have to improve both the content and the look'n feel of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>> In term of content, I think it makes sense to not emphasize on
>>>>>>> OSGi. The
>>>>>>> fact that Karaf runs OSGi is not really interesting for most of end
>>>>>>> users (of course, it is for advanced/power users). We have to expla=
in
>>>>>>> that Karaf is modern and multi-purpose container. More over, with
>>>>>>> karaf-boot, it becomes also a bootstrapper and "run anywhere"
>>>>>>> paradigm
>>>>>>> platform.
>>>>>>> So, I started a new website, changing the look'n feel (to give a mo=
re
>>>>>>> professional shape) and the content (changing the marketing message=
):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      http://maven.nanthrax.net/goodies/karaf/site/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will complete the website today (some cleanup, other pages than t=
he
>>>>>>> home one, etc), but it already gives you an idea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. New guides/documentation
>>>>>>> I'm working on the improvement in term of content of the
>>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>>> Especially, the dev guide will be more straight forward, providing
>>>>>>> recipes for users.
>>>>>>> All guides will use asciidoc now. You can already see the kind of
>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>> on the Decanter guide:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      http://karaf.apache.org/manual/decanter/latest-1/index.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All Karaf guides (and subprojects) will be rendered in a popup usin=
g
>>>>>>> such look'n feel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Meetups
>>>>>>> I plan to organize a Karaf Meetup beginning of 2016. I have some
>>>>>>> sponsors in mind. The purpose is to meet most of Karaf users,
>>>>>>> devs, and
>>>>>>> enthusiasts.
>>>>>>> I will give you more details soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9
>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofr=C3=A9
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>

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