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From Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
Date Tue, 09 Oct 2012 07:42:23 GMT
Fwiw, mina 2.0.7 is now available, so i'll update 2.3.x branch to it,
unless someone has already done it.

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Achim Nierbeck <bcanhome@googlemail.com>wrote:

> I think a valid "workaround" would be to offer a spring31 feature, I'm
> quite sure
> we're able to extract that kind of feature from trunk ;)
>
> regarding the road-map proposal, yes this would be really helpful.
> I know we have a Matrix showing which version does contain which
> dependencies (@Jamie where is it located?)
> but somehow it's again a pain to find it.
>
> I think we need to redo our webpage desperately since not all
> information can be found easily and the menu
> doesn't necessarily relate to the content (e.g. the manual)
>
> regards, Achim
>
> 2012/10/9 Charles Moulliard <ch007m@gmail.com>:
> > Even if I understand the karaf position I completely agree about Claus's
> > remark to also have Spring 3.1 for Camel and others projects.
> >
> > What I would like to propose is that we create for Karaf/ServiceMix
> > projects a page containing a table of the different software used and
> have
> > a roadmap about them. This question is important not only for Spring
> > framework but also Pax, Aries, Felix, ... which are (re)packaged into
> > Karaf/ServiceMix
> > This will avoid that we discover a few days before the publication of a
> > release that we have miss something
> >
> > Just my 5€ cents.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ibsen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > On Oct 8, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb@nanthrax.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Agree Claus, but Camel is not the only application running on Karaf.
> >> >>
> >> >> So, we have to think about "others projects" as well.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have no problem to upgrade to Spring 3.1.x but later (why not
> imagine
> >> a Karaf 2.4.x for that, it could be a good indicator), and propose both
> >> Spring 3.0 and 3.1 in Karaf 2.3.0 (depending of the impact, that I gonna
> >> test tonight).
> >> >
> >> > I agree with that.    I know CXF has had very little testing with
> Spring
> >> 3.1.x.    I would definitely prefer keeping on 3.0.7 for Karaf 2.3 and
> >> think about that for 2.4.
> >> >
> >> > I also agree that this is way to close to "release" to flip out a
> major
> >> component like spring.   Maybe a month ago, but not now.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Yeah I can understand the deadline issue as well.
> >>
> >> But its a shame that the new shiny Karaf 2.3.0 comes out of the box
> >> with the old Spring 3.0.7 from Dec 2011. And there has not been any
> >> new releases of Spring 3.0.x since.
> >>
> >> It would be cool if it was possible to provide an easy way for people
> >> to switch Karaf to offer Spring 3.1.
> >> Maybe that requires to offer a spring31 feature, and an easy way for
> >> people to configure Karaf to use that.
> >>
> >> At Camel we have a CI job that tests Camel with Spring 3.1. The
> >> upgrade for Camel has been painless.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Dan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards
> >> >> JB
> >> >>
> >> >> On 10/08/2012 06:48 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:44 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <
> jb@nanthrax.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>> Camel 2.10.x uses Spring 3.0.7 for now, for we are "aligned"
with
> >> Camel
> >> >>>> 2.10.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Does it make sense to update to Spring 3.1.x (for future Camel
> version
> >> >>>> maybe) ?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Well Camel 2.10 supports both Spring 3.0.x and 3.1.x. And we are
> >> >>> frankly only holding back because of Karaf.
> >> >>> As when people deploy Camel in Karaf they inherit the spring from
> >> Karaf.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> People in the community would like to use Spring 3.1.x as its been
> out
> >> >>> since December 2011.
> >> >>> And its the stable release path where they cut new releases.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Regards
> >> >>>> JB
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On 10/08/2012 05:55 PM, Claus Ibsen wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jamie G. <
> jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Hi Claus,
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>  From the Karaf 2.3.0 pom file:
> >> >>>>>> <spring.osgi.version>1.2.1</spring.osgi.version>
> >> >>>>>> <spring2.version>2.5.6.SEC03</spring2.version>
> >> >>>>>> <spring.version>3.0.7.RELEASE</spring.version>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Crap I think you guys shoulder consider switching to the
3.1.2
> >> release
> >> >>>>> of Spring.
> >> >>>>> As well Jetty 7.6.7, so people have the latest stable release
of
> >> these
> >> >>>>> 2 important pieces.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>> Jamie
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Claus Ibsen <
> claus.ibsen@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Hi
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> What Spring version does Karaf 2.3.0 come with
out of the box?
> >> 3.0.x
> >> >>>>>>> or the newer 3.1.x ?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Jamie G. <
> >> jamie.goodyear@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> I'm always ready!
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>> Jamie
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:08 AM, jb@nanthrax.net
<
> jb@nanthrax.net>
> >> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Great, thanks a lot !
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> >>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >> >>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> >>>>>>>>> Talend - http://wwx.talend.com
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> ----- Reply message -----
> >> >>>>>>>>> From: "Andreas Pieber" <anpieber@gmail.com>
> >> >>>>>>>>> To: <dev@karaf.apache.org>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Apache Karaf 2.3.0 very close
> >> >>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Oct 8, 2012 9:17 am
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Hey,
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Jean-Baptiste
Onofré <
> >> jb@nanthrax.net>
> >> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> @Andreas, could you take a look on
KARAF-1878 and KARAF-1752
> >> >>>>>>>>>> (assigned to
> >> >>>>>>>>>> you) ? If you are busy today, I think
we can postpone to
> 2.3.1.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> I wanted to keep KARAF-1878 opened for
review till tonight;
> I'll
> >> apply
> >> >>>>>>>>> afterwards. I'll also apply KARAF-1752
then.
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
> >> >>>>>>>>> Andreas
> >> >>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks all guys,
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >> >>>>>>>>>> JB
> >> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> >>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >> >>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>> Claus Ibsen
> >> >>>>>>> -----------------
> >> >>>>>>> Red Hat, Inc.
> >> >>>>>>> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> >> >>>>>>> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> >> >>>>>>> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> >>>>>>> Twitter: davsclaus
> >> >>>>>>> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >> >>>>>>> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> >>>> jbonofre@apache.org
> >> >>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> >>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> >> jbonofre@apache.org
> >> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> >> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Daniel Kulp
> >> > dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
> >> > Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Claus Ibsen
> >> -----------------
> >> Red Hat, Inc.
> >> FuseSource is now part of Red Hat
> >> Email: cibsen@redhat.com
> >> Web: http://fusesource.com
> >> Twitter: davsclaus
> >> Blog: http://davsclaus.com
> >> Author of Camel in Action: http://www.manning.com/ibsen
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Charles Moulliard
> > Apache Committer / Sr. Enterprise Architect (RedHat)
> > Twitter : @cmoulliard | Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> --
>
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