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From "Robin D. Wilson" <rwils...@gmail.com>
Subject RE: JMeter reporting higher response times
Date Tue, 15 Nov 2011 20:28:08 GMT
I must not be understanding what you are asking me to do...

I downloaded the 'apache-jmeter-r1202266_bin.zip' file from the URL below.

Then I 'copied' my folder for the "JMeter2.5.1" install. (Then I verified
that I can start JMeter from that new folder - it works fine.)

Then I merged the "lib" folder from the above
'apache-jmeter-r1202266_bin.zip' file into the "lib" folder from the
JMeter2.5.1_copy folder that I created.

Now the JMeter in that folder won't start.

I also tried merging all the files from ".zip" folder into the copy, no
dice. What am I doing wrong?

--
Robin D. Wilson
Sr. Director of Web Development
KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
VOICE: 512-777-1861
www.KingsIsle.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Philippe Mouawad [mailto:philippe.mouawad@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:56 PM
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Re: JMeter reporting higher response times

You can get it here:
https://builds.apache.org/job/JMeter-trunk/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/trun
k/dist/

Merge lib zip into bin one .

Regards
Philippe

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Robin D. Wilson <rwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:

> The server does use compression.
>
> I'm trying to get the nightly build now - I'll let you know the
difference.
>
> --
> Robin D. Wilson
> Sr. Director of Web Development
> KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
> VOICE: 512-777-1861
> www.KingsIsle.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 1:27 PM
> To: JMeter Users List
> Subject: Re: JMeter reporting higher response times
>
> On 15 November 2011 19:05, Robin D. Wilson <rwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Images:
> >
> >        JMeter 2.4 snap: http://tinypic.com/r/xo0hfd/5
> >        JMeter 2.5.1 snap: http://tinypic.com/r/qn045e/5
>
> The byte sizes are very different also; larger for 2.4.
>
> That is probably due to compression - previously JMeter recorded the 
> uncompressed size, now it records the transmitted (compressed) size.
>
> Does the server use compression?
>
> > I'm using HTTPS.
> >
> > The POST takes longer, the GET does not. (In the images, the 
> > "Homepage" is a GET, the "Login" is a POST.)
> >
> > Do I have to build JMeter to get the fixed HTTP client, or is there 
> > somewhere that I can get it already ready to go (for Windows XP, 
> > 32bit, Java JRE1.6.0_29)?
>
> Follow the nightly build links.
>
> > I consider myself a medium to advanced "user" of JMeter, but I'm not 
> > really a developer (of any kind, anymore)...
> >
> > --
> > Robin D. Wilson
> > Sr. Director of Web Development
> > KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
> > VOICE: 512-777-1861
> > www.KingsIsle.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 11:38 AM
> > To: JMeter Users List
> > Subject: Re: JMeter reporting higher response times
> >
> > On 15 November 2011 17:24, Robin D. Wilson <rwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hopefully this list can handle images...
> >
> > No, it cannot.
> >
> > Use a public hosting service and include the URL in the e-mail.
> >
> >> I have included a couple screen snaps of what I'm seeing. I ran a 
> >> test that requests (GET) the 'homepage' from our test machine. Then 
> >> it POSTs a login (username + password + special token) to the login
> form.
> >> It is a very simplified test.
> >>
> >> When I run it on JMeter 2.4, I get throughput of 128.1. When I run 
> >> it on JMeter 2.5.1 I get throughput of 79.5.
> >>
> >> The request averages show similar differences:
> >>
> >>        JMeter 2.4 - average times are 744ms
> >>        JMeter 2.5.1 - average times are 901ms
> >>
> >> Re-running the tests over and over give very similar results 
> >> (there's some variability in the response times of the server, so I 
> >> had to run this a bunch of times to be sure that I wasn't just seeing
an anomaly.
> >> The results are consistent - each test run shows JMeter 2.4 running 
> >> significantly faster than JMeter 2.5.1.
> >
> > Do you use HTTP or HTTPS?
> >
> > Do both GET and POST show elapsed time increases?
> >
> >> BTW, just now, when I tried to switch this test to use the HTTP4 
> >> client, the cookies stopped working correctly. So I couldn't test 
> >> that sampler. The above numbers are just for the HTTP3.1 client. I 
> >> have a cookie value called 'stk', and using the "${COOKIE_stk}"
> >> variable in the POST fails about 90% of the time when I'm using the
> >> HTTP4 client. It
> > works fine with HTTP3.1.
> >
> > There have been some fixes to HC4 since 2.5.1.
> >
> >> --
> >> Robin D. Wilson
> >> Sr. Director of Web Development
> >> KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
> >> VOICE: 512-777-1861
> >> www.KingsIsle.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: sebb [mailto:sebbaz@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 10:09 AM
> >> To: JMeter Users List
> >> Subject: Re: JMeter reporting higher response times
> >>
> >> On 15 November 2011 15:58, Robin D. Wilson <rwilson2@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Not sure if this will matter, but have you tried testing this in 
> >>> JMeter 2.4.x?
> >>>
> >>> The reason I ask is that I have a bunch of test scripts that I 
> >>> regularly run in 2.4 r961953, and I have seen a significant 
> >>> decrease in performance of these same test scripts (both 
> >>> unmodified, and switching to various flavors of the new HTTP 
> >>> Sampler) when I switched to
> >> 2.5 and 2.5.1.
> >>
> >> Can you provide details of these issues please?
> >>
> >>> --
> >>> Robin D. Wilson
> >>> Sr. Director of Web Development
> >>> KingsIsle Entertainment, Inc.
> >>> VOICE: 512-777-1861
> >>> www.KingsIsle.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: sasidharsmit [mailto:sasidharsmit@gmail.com]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 9:08 AM
> >>> To: jmeter-user@jakarta.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: JMeter reporting higher response times
> >>>
> >>> I disabled everything other than the actual sampler. Still, the 
> >>> response time is over 2000 ms. PF attached the screenshot.
> >>>
> >>> http://jmeter.512774.n5.nabble.com/file/n4994555/jmeter_only_sampler.
> >>> p
> >>> ng
> >>> jmeter_only_sampler.png
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Sasidhar Sekar
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> View this message in context:
> >>> http://jmeter.512774.n5.nabble.com/JMeter-reporting-higher-respons
> >>> e-
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> >>> i
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Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.


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