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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Jmeter Deviation
Date Fri, 02 Sep 2011 15:46:03 GMT
On 2 September 2011 16:25, Sherif Amer <sherif.moh.amer@gmail.com> wrote:
> i got the values from the graph and i calculated it and i got the population
> standard deviation, it is totally different from the values which the table
> shows, can you try it please ?

No, I cannot try it.

You have not provided the raw data.

> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:51 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2 September 2011 15:08, Sherif Amer <sherif.moh.amer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > thanks very much for the response, regarding "The aggregate graph does
>> not
>> > display the deviation" i calculated it manually :) and it is not the same
>> > one shown in the table.
>>
>> So what has the aggregate graph got to do with it then?
>>
>> And did you use the appropriate calculation, i.e. population standard
>> deviation?
>>
>> > regarding the bugzilla and the JTL can elaborate more details as it is my
>> > first time here :)
>>
>> Bugzilla: http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/issues.html
>>
>> JTL is the sample output file; may be in CSV or XML format.
>>
>> Without the sample data it's impossible to provide further help.
>>
>> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 1:53 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2 September 2011 13:07, Sherif Amer <sherif.moh.amer@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> > Hello, i re test the full test plan again and i got strange results
>> for
>> >> > the average and for the deviation
>> >> > i have 4 pages and i made 10 request per page so the result is 40
>> request
>> >> > when i show the result in table i got the Average = 142 and the
>> deviation
>> >> =
>> >> > 93
>> >> > when i show the result in aggregate graph and i calculated the average
>> >> and
>> >> > the deviation  the results were different from the results on the
>> table
>> >> !!!
>> >>
>> >> The aggregate graph does not display the deviation, so I don't
>> >> understand what you mean.
>> >>
>> >> >   in the graph the Average = 140 and the deviation = 41.
>> >> > any idea why the results are different even it is same number of
>> requests
>> >> > and the same test plan !!?
>> >>
>> >> Please provide the JTL results file - but do not send it to the list.
>> >>
>> >> Create a bugzilla issue and attach the JTL file to that.
>> >> Make sure you explain what you see in the listeners and what you
>> >> expected to see.
>> >>
>> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 4:11 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Note that OpenOffice.org Calc has STDEV and STDEVP functions that
>> >> >> calculate the two different versions of std. dev.; I imagine Excel
>> has
>> >> >> similar functions.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 1 September 2011 16:06, Sherif Amer <sherif.moh.amer@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > Thanks very much for the clarification, i will re create the
full
>> test
>> >> >> > scenario and update you.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:37 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> On 1 September 2011 15:17, Sherif Amer <sherif.moh.amer@gmail.com
>> >
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> > view result in *table*
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> OK, I see - you mean the figure in red at the bottom of
the
>> screen.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have just written a test using the Java sampler so I
can ensure
>> >> that
>> >> >> >> the correct times are created.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I get the same average, but the deviation is calculated
as 280,
>> not
>> >> 581
>> >> >> >> or
>> >> >> >> 323.
>> >> >> >> Same if I use the Summary Listener.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The JMeter value agrees with the "population standard
deviation",
>> >> >> >> where the sum of square diffs is divided by the number
of values
>> >> (i.e.
>> >> >> >> 4) before taking the square root.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> The value 323 results from dividing the sum of squares
diffs by 3
>> (=
>> >> >> >> 4-1) and then taking the square root.
>> >> >> >> This is the "sample standard deviation".
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Both are valid interpretations of standard deviation.
Perhaps
>> JMeter
>> >> >> >> should have used the latter, but it does not.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I don't understand where the value 581 comes from.
>> >> >> >> If you still have the raw sample data, perhaps you can
create a
>> >> >> >> Bugzilla issue and attach the JTL file with a screenshot
of the
>> Table
>> >> >> >> Listener.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 3:13 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> On 1 September 2011 15:06, Sherif Amer <
>> sherif.moh.amer@gmail.com
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > Which sampler were you using?
>> >> >> >> >> > *HTTP request*
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Sorry, I meant - which Listener were you using?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Which version of JMeter?
>> >> >> >> >> > *2.4*
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:21 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> On 1 September 2011 13:56, Sherif Amer
>> >> >> >> >> >> <sherif.moh.amer@gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > i made load test for 4 pages and
the sample time was
>> >> >> >> >>  426,1093,1127,921
>> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> > when i showed the result in table
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > The average was 892 which is ok
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Agreed.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > And the deviation was 581 which
is totally wrong, if you
>> >> >> >> >> >> > calculate
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> >> >> > yourself the result will simply
will be 323.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Which sampler were you using?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Which version of JMeter?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:48 PM,
sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 1 September 2011 13:43,
Sherif Amer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <sherif.moh.amer@gmail.com
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > hello !!
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > i have question :) does
Jmeter calculating the the
>> >> deviation
>> >> >> >> >> >> incorrectly
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the listener like the
table and graphic shapes ?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> No.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> What makes you think the calculations
are wrong?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please provide some evidence.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Sherif Amer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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>> >> >> >> >> >
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