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From Marc Guillemot <mguille...@yahoo.fr>
Subject Re: Web 2.0
Date Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:22 GMT
sure you can, but first my example was very simplistic and second, you
have additional work to maintain it.

Marc.

Paul Rogers wrote:
> well, youd record the script to see what the browser is sending for
> the specified single user action. Then modify the jmeter recording to
> put the changing data ( be it the users id, email address, book
> purchase, phone number etc)  into some form of variable. Since for
> load on the server you can probably do enough of the logic in  the
> jmeter script to find out how well the server copes.
> 
> Paul
> 
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Marc Guillemot <mguillemot@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>> Paul,
>>
>>  you are missing the point that when more logic is handled on the client
>>  side, a session recording may just be wrong. Just imagine a client side
>>  logic to determine which page to load next based on the number of
>>  currently logged in clients. Load testing with the recorded session may
>>  be interesting, but it doesn't simulate the load that real users may
>>  produce.
>>
>>  Additionally recording is a very bad solution in term of maintainability.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>  Marc.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Paul Rogers wrote:
>>  > I see jmeter as a way to exercise the server. So even if your app is
>>  > heavily javascript, if you are using jmeter, then arent you only
>>  > interested in the server side aspects? So just record a session, and
>>  > those requests will be the server load based on the javascript usage.
>>  > Thats what Ive done for the app I work on , and its very heavy
>>  > javascript. I can see Im doing the right thing, as the server logs
>>  > from the load test, are the same as what I would expect from a user in
>>  > a browser. Or am I missing something?
>>  >
>>  > Paul
>>  >
>>  > On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Peter Loron <peterl@standingwave.org>
wrote:
>>  >> Having built-in Javascript support (and HTTPS proxy capture a la
>>  >>  PureTest) would be a godsend for us. I'm working on doing some load
>>  >>  testing of our web app, but it makes heavy use of HTTPS and
>>  >>  Javascript. So far it is proving very hard to make the JMeter load
>>  >>  match the "real world" activity.
>>  >>
>>  >>  -Pete
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  On Mar 14, 2008, at 7:25 AM, Marc Guillemot wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>  > I'm surely biased on this as I'm lead developer of HtmlUnit but I
>>  >>  > really
>>  >>  > think that a combination of JMeter & HtmlUnit (or WebTest) would
bring
>>  >>  > great possibilities in load testing of Ajax applications.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > HtmlUnit "is" a browser that evaluates the JS (nearly) like normal
>>  >>  > browsers do. But it is so lightweight that it is possible to run
a few
>>  >>  > hundreds instances of WebClient (the "browser") in parallel on a
>>  >>  > normal
>>  >>  > computer.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > I don't know what the current status is with Dojo support, but complex
>>  >>  > Ajax libraries are already supported by HtmlUnit and other will come.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > Cheers,
>>  >>  > Marc.
>>  >>  > --
>>  >>  > Blog: http://mguillem.wordpress.com
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  > Woody Aichner wrote:
>>  >>  >> Is anyone using Jmeter to test a web application that uses Web
2.0
>>  >>  >> capability and specifically one that uses DoJo.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> I have dealt with applications that make use of javascript before
>>  >>  >> and do this by simulating what the javascript does in Jmeter.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> Now, with these heavily scripted applications, the job appears
that
>>  >>  >> it will be more difficult as the amount of javascript executed
is
>>  >>  >> very large.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> I realize that recording is one option, but have found that this
>>  >>  >> does not work in alot of cases, because of the dynamic nature
of
>>  >>  >> the javascript.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >> Woody

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