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From "Mike Stover" <mstov...@apache.org>
Subject RE: Re; Functional Mode Checkbox and Quick and Dirty Functional T esting
Date Fri, 06 Sep 2002 15:09:48 GMT
View Results is defunct and removed.  View Results Tree was superior in every way, so I got

rid of View Results.  Use the Tree for equivalent purposes.

-Mike

On 6 Sep 2002 at 10:18, Sosnowski, Andrew P [IT] wrote:

>  Hi Mike
> 
> I just re-tried these on the nitely build from yesterday and it did work for
> the html captured in the jtl file and the "View Results Tree"!!
> 
> Wonderful!!
> 
> Only 1 new problem? 
> Did something change on the "View Results" screen.
> When I go here there is a test box for the Name (in this defaults to View
> Results) but there is no text box to view the html and no Next button. This
> could be as a result of running using JDK 1.4 on Windows XP (I usually run
> on SUN Solaris 2.6  OS with JDK 1.3.1 which I'll try again on Monday)
> 
> Anyway I wasn't able to check what was captured in the View Results screen.
> 
> Thanks Mike
> 
> Andy
> 
> P.S. I believe I was using the unstable version before.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Stover
> To: JMeter Users List
> Sent: 9/5/02 3:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Re; Functional Mode Checkbox and Quick and Dirty Functional T
> esting
> 
> What version is that?  I'd prefer you did these experiments on the
> latest nightly.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> On 5 Sep 2002 at 15:21, Sosnowski, Andrew P [IT] wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Tried this with a couple of more report pages of the same type that
> had the
> > problem where captured html was incomplete.
> > I looked at the html captured in several places:
> >    1) log file- this is always truncated at the same place
> > 	I did find a non-ascii character in one of the files at the
> point of
> > truncation but not all files have this.
> > 
> >    2) View Results- sometimes captured the whole file, sometimes
> truncated
> > in that same place
> >    3) View Results Tree- also shows truncated html in same place.
> > 
> > This for the same page in the same run of the test!!
> > 
> > 
> > In terms of looking in the log, is there something I need to do to
> turn on
> > the log; the version I'm using doesn't seem to write to a log file.
> > 
> > Thanks again
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Stover [mailto:mstover1@apache.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:18 AM
> > To: JMeter Users List
> > Subject: Re: Re; Functional Mode Checkbox and Quick and Dirty
> Functional
> > Testi ng
> > 
> > 
> > My only thought on this is that Avalon's ConfigurationSerializer is
> choking
> > on some 
> > special character in your page and throwing an exception, and JMeter
> is
> > catching 
> > it silently.  Have you checked JMeter's logs?  It's recently improved,
> so
> > it'd be nice 
> > to use the logging system to track this down.  Look in 
> > org.apache.jmeter.save.SaveService.java for places to put interesting
> log 
> > statements.
> > 
> > -Mike
> > 
> > On 5 Sep 2002 at 8:53, Sosnowski, Andrew P [IT] wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I thought I had sent this mail previously but it seems as though it
> didn't
> > > go?
> > > Sorry for the delay.
> > > 
> > > I have not yet figured out why the html page is not always
> completely
> > > captured.
> > > However when I use the "View Results" visualizer, the full page if
> there?
> > > 
> > > It seems to stop consistently in the same place in this page.
> > > 
> > > Also I put the page through an html checker and it passed (plus it
> > displays
> > > properly in both IE 5.x,6 and NS 4.x and 6.x.
> > > 
> > > Any ideas?
> > > Andy
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Sosnowski, Andrew P [IT] 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 10:25 AM
> > > To: 'mstover1@apache.org'; Sosnowski, Andrew P [IT]
> > > Subject: RE: Functional Mode Checkbox and quick and dirty Functional
> > > testi ng
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sounds good.
> > > One more thing I've discovered in my testing; the html for one of my
> pages
> > > is not being fully loaded into the log file; is there any limitation
> to
> > the
> > > storing of html that you know of?
> > > 
> > > (Another curious thing is that the html saved changes all the html
> angle
> > > brackets to &lt; and &gt; Not a problem just curious)
> > > 
> > > The page in question does display properly in both Netscape and IE.
> > > 
> > > This would limit the usefulness of this new feature; there was no
> error
> > > detected but I did not have an assertion for </html>
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Andy
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mike Stover [mailto:mstover1@apache.org]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 9:26 AM
> > > To: Sosnowski, Andrew P [IT]
> > > Subject: RE: Functional Mode Checkbox and quick and dirty Functional
> > > testi ng
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Here's kinda what I imagined:
> > > 
> > > The visualizer looks like the View Results Tree (ie, there's a tree
> that
> > > holds results or some 
> > > sort, you click on a node, you see the details below).
> > > 
> > > It also has 2 additional fields where the user can specify the name
> of two
> > > requests in the test.  
> > > The visualizer will then create diffs against these two requests,
> and from
> > > the diff info, create 
> > > the nodes in the tree.  Thus, each node in the tree isn't a normal
> result
> > > but rather, the diff 
> > > between the two specified results.
> > > 
> > > I don't know exactly what your needs are, so you make it whatever
> you
> > want,
> > > of course.  The 
> > > visualizer could be dependent on a "diff" command being on the
> system, and
> > > windows users 
> > > can always install cygwin (it's the first thing I do on any windows
> box).
> > > It might also be worth a 
> > > few minutes to search the web for a diff Java implementation.
> > > 
> > > -Mike
> > > 
> > > On 27 Aug 2002 at 7:17, Sosnowski, Andrew P [IT] wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Hi Mike
> > > > 
> > > > This seems to be working for me pretty well; so far I am using
> perl to
> > > parse
> > > > out the html files, massage them and compare them but that could
> be done
> > > > easily with Java regular expressions as well.
> > > > 
> > > > You mention creating a visualizer; I'd like to perhaps build this
> if you
> > > > feel it fits into jMeter plans; what do you think it should look
> like?
> > Any
> > > > pointers?
> > > > I think there should be an additional input field to specify the
> run
> > that
> > > is
> > > > to be compared.
> > > > The actual result would consist of the output of the diff command
> on the
> > > > html files within the 2 logs. However I'm not sure if there is a
> > > > cross-platform version of diff.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > Andy
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mike Stover [mailto:mstover1@apache.org]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 5:09 PM
> > > > To: JMeter Users List
> > > > Subject: Re: Functional Mode Checkbox and quick and dirty
> Functional
> > > > testing
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > First, you have noticed the one and only difference that choosing
> > > > "functional testing" makes.
> > > > 
> > > > Second, that sounds like an interesting idea - to make a
> visualizer that
> > > > compares the 
> > > > functional differences between two test runs?  I think your
> proposed use
> > > of
> > > > such a tool is an 
> > > > excellent idea.
> > > > 
> > > > -Mike
> > > > 
> > > > On 20 Aug 2002 at 15:21, Sosnowski, Andrew P [IT] wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Mike,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can you give me an idea of what is the intent behind the
> Functional
> > Mode
> > > > > testing checkbox on the front page?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > This was my plan for a quick and dirty functional test:
> > > > > We have a Staging environment and a production environment for
> our
> > app.
> > > > > When we make a new release of our app I would like to capture
> and
> > > compare
> > > > > the html responses of running a test script with the new version
> of
> > the
> > > > app
> > > > > on the Staging Environment and the old version still in
> Production.
> > > > > Then I would compare the 2 versions of html and make sure that
> nothing
> > > > > changed that was not expected to change.
> > > > > Of course I have to ignore Referrer Headers values and
> time-stamps and
> > > > > various cookies that are different on the different servers.
> > > > > 
> > > > > When I tried using this mode I did find the html within <binary>
> tags
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > log file.
> > > > > It looks like it might work as a quick and dirty way to compare.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Perhaps it might be worth building in some additional support
> for this
> > > > kind
> > > > > of testing into jMeter? For example store html cleaned of
> timestamps
> > in
> > > a
> > > > > file separate from the log file (or jtl file)
> > > > > I might be willing to do this if others would find it useful.
> Also any
> > > > ideas
> > > > > of how to make it more useful and general are appreciated
> > > > > 
> > > > > What do you think?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Andy
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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