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From Philippe Mouawad <philippe.moua...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Simplify JMeter first and following experiences...
Date Sat, 29 Oct 2016 08:48:39 GMT
Hi,
Unless there is a nogo, I'll commit this evening the patch that on test
creation add a Thread Group and a View Results tree.

I think this eases a bit first experience.

Regarding this thread, I still see unfortunately on stackoverflow and
twitter users running load test in gui mode and complaining about JMeter
not scaling.

This I think is an issue for Jmeter reputation, it's unfair but ignoring it
is not a good idea I think.

We discussed this in the past but didn't do anything yet:
- warning on start (i don't know if we discussed a threads threshold : 50
threads)
- limit View Results tree and table size in memory (patch exists but no
agreement)
- Have a dedicated Load Testing page on Home Page ? which would mention non
gui mode, heap settings , os tuning ...


I also wonder if we should not remove the default Xmx and Xms settings in
jmeter file. When using Java8 , default settings may be better as they
adapt to machine memory, but it can also be a problem...



On Tuesday, October 18, 2016, Antonio Gomes Rodrigues <ra0077@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> About solution 3 (palette on the right), it's the solution adopted by
> Neoload (they have put it in the left)
>
> About Andrey idea, we have already templates. But it could be an
> interesting solution but, in my opinion, start with recording template is
> better.
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>
> 2016-10-18 13:30 GMT+02:00 Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>:
>
> > Hi Andrei,
> > I don't know if we should go that far, as if we have an HTTP Plan then
> > users might think they need to configure everything manually instead of
> > Recording.
> > Or should we go for a Recording template as a start ?
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Andrey Pokhilko <apc4@ya.ru
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > IMO JMeter should start with basic HTTP test plan in it, ready to give
> a
> > > try for newbies. Clear/New button should empty it to allow starting
> > > clean for those who want to customize things.
> > >
> > > Andrey Pokhilko
> > >
> > > On 10/18/2016 02:07 PM, Philippe Mouawad wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Thoughts on that ?
> > > > Thx
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Philippe Mouawad <
> > > > philippe.mouawad@gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello,
> > > >> I noticed that newbies are often lost at start when using jmeter and
> > > >> search how to add a sampler for example, or don't know where to find
> > > some
> > > >> particular component in tree menu.
> > > >>
> > > >> 1)
> > > >> I suggest that we add a Thread group by default to a new test plan.
> As
> > > >> long as a view results tree.
> > > >> Afaik, I always end up having those 2 elements.
> > > >>
> > > >> 2)
> > > >> In the future we should think about a way to simplify gui.
> > > >>
> > > >> I think we discussed this in the past but test profile seem to be
> > > useful:
> > > >> - expert : as today
> > > >> - http : keep only http protocol related elements + usual pre/post
> > > >> processors, listeners ...
> > > >> -jms same but for http
> > > >> -jdbc
> > > >> - java
> > > >> - ldap
> > > >> ...
> > > >>
> > > >> There would be a visible component (toolbar) to switch between
> > profiles.
> > > >>
> > > >> 3)
> > > >> Third idea(needs to be improved) add a palette on the right with a
> > > >> selectable number of components.
> > > >> Users could drag them on tree, this would avoid the unfolding of
> tree
> > > menu
> > > >> at different levels.
> > > >>
> > > >> Other ideas ?
> > > >>
> > > >> Thoughts ?
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Cordialement.
> > > >> Philippe Mouawad.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement.
> > Philippe Mouawad.
> >
>


-- 
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.

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