Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-taglibs-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 83412 invoked from network); 30 Sep 2005 18:02:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 30 Sep 2005 18:02:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 90352 invoked by uid 500); 30 Sep 2005 18:02:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-taglibs-dev-archive@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 90334 invoked by uid 500); 30 Sep 2005 18:02:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact taglibs-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tag Libraries Developers List" Reply-To: "Tag Libraries Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list taglibs-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 90323 invoked by uid 99); 30 Sep 2005 18:02:43 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:02:43 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.98.34] (HELO brmea-mail-3.sun.com) (192.18.98.34) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:02:47 -0700 Received: from fe-amer-10.sun.com ([192.18.108.184]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j8UI2K1L002726 for ; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:02:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.mail-amer.sun.com by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) id <0INN0060162P2A00@mail-amer.sun.com> (original mail from Pierre.Delisle@Sun.COM) for taglibs-dev@jakarta.apache.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:02:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from sun.com ([129.145.133.156]) by mail-amer.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.11 (built Jan 28 2005)) with ESMTPSA id <0INN00AIO63VP3E0@mail-amer.sun.com> for taglibs-dev@jakarta.apache.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:02:20 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:02:21 -0700 From: Pierre Delisle Subject: Re: [Standard] Applying patches In-reply-to: <31cc3736050917183120b7f2be@mail.gmail.com> Sender: Pierre.Delisle@Sun.COM To: Tag Libraries Developers List Message-id: <433D7DAD.6030600@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: <432C6CE0.1080408@apache.org> <31cc3736050917183120b7f2be@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Apologies for the long silence. As noted by Felipe, Sun has been focusing a lot of its energies on GlassFish lately and we've been lacking the resources to stay active at jakarta taglibs. [And I know I could use my spare time to work on apache stuff, but the 4 kids have been asking a lot of attention as well lately...] I've raised the issue with management so we can clarify the situation regarding the standard tag library and on our involvement within jakarta-taglibs. I'll update this list whenever decisions are made. Rahul, feel free to apply your patch. I would recommend running the TCK as well (Felipe can fill you in). Thanks, -- Pierre Henri Yandell wrote: > On 9/17/05, Rahul Akolkar wrote: > >>On 9/15/05, Felipe Leme wrote: >> >>>Rahul, >>> >>>AFAIK, we are all developers for all taglibs, so please feel free to >>>apply the patches yourself without review if you are confident to do so. >> >> >> >>Just broadcasting my intent to see if anyone has anything insightful to >>say ;-) >> >> >>>Of course, a peer review would be nice, but giving the current status of >>>the project, I wouldn't count on that. In fact, I have the feeling that >>>the even the Standard taglibs are going to be dormant, as JSTL 1.2 is >>>now being developed at Glassfish (I just realized it these days - we >>>have not talked about it on the list and I guess Sun just opted for this >>>path as Glassfish is open-source and our project is dormant)... >>> >> >> >> >>And indeed, you had quite some insight. Given the above, I'll just leave >>things where they are in Jakarta Taglibs Standard land. >> >> >>On 9/16/05, Felipe Leme wrote: >> >>>Henri Yandell wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hmm. So maybe we shouldn't be moving Standard to subproject level, >>>>maybe we should just be planning to put Standard into dormancy. >>> >>>Haven't thought about that, but it could be an option. Anyway, I think >>>we should ask the JSTL EG group about its plan first - I don't like the >>>way Sun has silently hijacked JSTL to Glassfish (*), so let's not do the >>>same. >> >> >> >>Definitely. Felipe, would you like to initiate that conversation with >>the JSTL EG (you might be best equipped to do that)? We're also going to >>have to revisit the decision about Standard's future. > > > Cc me on that if you mail about it Felipe. As far as I understand, the > JSTL EG makes up the Standard committers and their failure to be > involved in the discussions about Standard implies they're not really > around here anymore. > > I'd definitely appreciate if you took the lead on it (it's one part of > the inactivity jigsaw that I'll be looking at next quarter), but if > not it'll slowly rise to the top of my TODO list :) > > Hen > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: taglibs-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: taglibs-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: taglibs-dev-unsubscribe@jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: taglibs-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org