Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jakarta-taglibs-dev-archive@apache.org Received: (qmail 86656 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2002 17:14:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO nagoya.betaversion.org) (192.18.49.131) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Sep 2002 17:14:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 15168 invoked by uid 97); 27 Sep 2002 17:11:14 -0000 Delivered-To: qmlist-jakarta-archive-taglibs-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 15121 invoked by uid 97); 27 Sep 2002 17:11:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact taglibs-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Tag Libraries Developers List" Reply-To: "Tag Libraries Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list taglibs-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 15076 invoked by uid 98); 27 Sep 2002 17:11:13 -0000 X-Antivirus: nagoya (v4218 created Aug 14 2002) Message-ID: <3D949062.7090501@sun.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 20:07:46 +0300 From: orhan alkan User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Mark R. Diggory" CC: Tag Libraries Developers List , Ayhan Alkan , gorguner , "orhan.alkan" Subject: Re: LDAP taglib proposal References: <3D6DD3C9.5090200@sun.com> <3D6E98E1.78D8E306@sun.com> <3D7D35A7.DBECCFA9@sun.com> <3D943A15.2090102@sun.com> <3D947AC2.6020308@latte.harvard.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi Mark, I think we should learn people who are already participating actively. Then we can talk about roles and responsibilies. Regards Orhan Alkan Mark R. Diggory wrote: > Pierre and Orhan, > > I to would be interested in getting more involved. However, its > unclear if there is anyone actually heading up / managing development > of the JNDI taglibrary itself. It sounded like the original submitter > of the project had left. Id be curious to see some sort of role-call > of developers on the JNDI taglib project at this time > > Plus, while working extensively with our own CVS projects. I've never > been involved directly with jakarta development. It seems theres a > rather lengthy "internship like" process one has to go through > (providing diff's to be applied by a "project admin") just to get to > the point where one can commit code to the cvs. However, how can one > send in diff's on the project, if no one is actually there to apply > them as "project admin" for a particular project? > > -Mark > > orhan alkan wrote: > >> Hi All, >> We have studied on merging LDAP taglib, we supposed, with existing >> JNDI taglib. It'd better merge them. If you give us responsibilty of >> JNDI tablig, we are enthusiastic to develop a more general JNDI taglib. >> I'm looking for hearing from you soon. >> Regards >> ORhan Alkan >> >> , we can develope >> >> Pierre Delisle wrote: >> >>> Orhan, >>> >>> I've had a look at your LDAP taglib submission. >>> >>> Looks good, but I do have the following concerns: >>> >>> 1. Duplication of functionality >>> >>> As we all know, we already have a JNDI taglib offering. >>> Unfortunately, its original developer is no longer >>> active in our community, and it has not been "growing" >>> much over time. >>> >>> However, before we accept another "competing" proposal, I think we >>> ought to have compelling reasons to choose that >>> path, rather than work on evolving the current one. >>> >>> So, it would be great to have these reasons clearly exposed >>> to the list. >>> >>> 2. JNDI vs LDAP >>> >>> It would also be important to build the case for LDAP >>> as opposed to a more generic JNDI taglib. >>> [Would be great if you could address the questions that >>> were sent by Henri Yandell] >>> >>> 3. Design Patterns >>> >>> JSTL has introduced many patterns for the design >>> of tag libraries. It would be great if new taglibs >>> tried to adopt these design patterns whenever possible. >>> [I see a lot of similarities between the JSTL tags >>> and the JNDI/LDAP tags (configuration, connect-query-access-update)] >>> >>> 4. Collaboration with other interested parties >>> >>> At least one more member of this list (Mark Diggory) >>> has expressed interest in seeing a "stable and effective >>> Read/Write JNDI/LDAP taglibrary available and would be willing to >>> provide any of our code and any of my experience to such a >>> development." It would be great if we could >>> leverage the skills from all interested parties to come up with >>> the best possible taglib. >>> >>> -- Pierre >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> >> > > > > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: For additional commands, e-mail: