Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact taglibs-dev-help@jakarta.apache.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list taglibs-dev@jakarta.apache.org Received: (qmail 71447 invoked from network); 4 Dec 2000 00:46:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO liszt.lokitech.com) (216.7.13.71) by locus.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Dec 2000 00:46:12 -0000 Received: from pizzicato ([216.181.165.35]) by liszt.lokitech.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.62) with SMTP id 520 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:54:11 -0500 Message-ID: <006401c05d85$1ef24000$23a5b5d8@lokitech.com> From: "Serge Knystautas" To: References: Subject: Re: Discussion Initiation: Incorporation of custom tag libraries into authoring tools. Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2000 18:59:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Spam-Rating: locus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Keyton Weissinger" > I am beginning work in earnest on my book. Several of you have indicated > some very useful additions to my planned content. THANK YOU! Keyton, I don't think the problem right now is with tag libraries... a tool editor can very easily read the .tld file for a tag library and know exactly what the options are... in the .tld you define a friendly name, a description for the tag library and for each tag, and all attributes for all tags... this should be more than what an IDE needs to allow easy integration of custom tag libraries. I think the two limiting factors are the relative youth of JSP custom tags and the fact that there are few prominent IDEs to develop JSPs. For "serious" java developers, there are a smaller handful (VisualAge, VisualCafe, etc...), but these people are less likely to develop JSPs and less likely to benefit from this kind of integration. The HTML writers that could really benefit (most) from this integration are using text editors or maybe dreamweaver or frontpage or homesite, or one of a hundred other HTML scripting tools. I think you have very important concerns, and I'm very interested in helping JSPs and custom tags get more acceptance and wider use, but I'm not sure if there's much you can do with the spec right now. I think a tool like Dreamweaver could benefit tremendously by incorporating tag libraries... they could stand to get much more "enterprise" usage. Maybe Homesite will integrate since I believe they're owned by Allaire which is moving towards more JSP usage through it's acquisition of JRun/LiveSoftware. I'm not sure how to better encourage them though. Serge Knystautas Loki Technologies http://www.lokitech.com/