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From "Aleksandar Matijaca" <amatij...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: New Release w/o util.concurrent library?
Date Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:13:09 GMT
Our application is still "shackled" by JDK 1.3.  Please include my vote
also..

Thanks, Alex.



On 4/23/07, Niall Gallagher <niall@switchfire.com> wrote:
>
> At this point, we've had 9 responses on the poll below (including my own
> response! :/). The sample group could be larger :/ but regardless here
> is a summary:
>
> JDK version in use / Respondents / Percentage of total
> JDK 1.3:  1  (11%)
> JDK 1.4:  3  (33%)
> JDK 5.0/6.0:  5  (56%)
>
> There are a reasonable number of people still using JDK 1.4.
>
> If JDK was being built against JDK 1.4, I could provide patches to fix
> networking issues seen on Red Hat Linux. JDK 1.4 is the minimum
> requirement for fixing networking bugs in JCS.
>
> Building JCS against JDK 5 however has additional benefits - technical
> benefits such as being able to generify the core, but developer benefits
> also because I'm sure that any developers coding against JDK 5 don't
> like reverting to older coding styles to fix bugs in JCS.
>
> If we look at other widely-used open source projects like Tomcat, we see
> that they move trunk development to new versions of Java quite soon
> after new JDKs are released. Tomcat's last JDK 1.4-compatible release
> was in 2004; since then all new releases of Tomcat have required JDK 5.
>
> Do any JCS core developers read this mailing list - are there any plans
> to move JCS to JDK 1.4 or JDK 5?
>
> Niall
>
> On Mon, 2007-04-23 at 09:10 -0500, Eric Everman wrote:
>
> > FWIW, all of our servers are running 1.5 and we will likely move to
> > 1.6 within the year.
> >
> > --ee
> >
> >
> > On Apr 4, 2007, at 7:09 AM, Niall Gallagher wrote:
> >
> > > It would be useful to have a poll to see what platforms people are
> > > running JCS on.
> > >
> > > I understand some companies will be running JDK 1.3. However I'd
> > > imagine
> > > a majority are running JDK 5.
> > > I'd also be interested in knowing what operating systems people are
> > > running JCS on.
> > >
> > > Here, we are running JCS on JDK 5, on Red Hat & Fedora Linux.
> > >
> > > We have recently discovered some bugs in JCS' use of networking APIs
> > > which breaks out-of-the-box compatibility with Red Hat and Fedora
> > > Linux.
> > > We have fixed the bugs in an in-house modified version of the JCS
> > > -- but
> > > the fixes require JDK 1.4 at least.
> > > [ http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4665037 --
> > > requires
> > > java.net.NetworkInterface ]
> > >
> > > We are interested in contributing the relevant patches to the JCS
> > > trunk,
> > > however we can't do so because they are not compatible with JDK 1.3.
> > >
> > > There is no workaround to the networking bugs on Linux that I'm
> > > aware of
> > > using only JDK 1.3 APIs, without detrimentally changing network config
> > > in the OS. Therefore I can't see JCS becoming compatible with Red Hat
> > > Linux unless it migrates to a newer version of the JDK.
> > >
> > > The Java JDK 1.3 was released 7 years ago. Personally, I'd like JCS
> > > migrated to JDK 5. As Al said earlier, the JDK 1.3 branch will always
> > > exist.
> > >
> > > Can we have a show of hands - on which Operating Systems and JDK
> > > versions are people running JCS?
> > >
> > > Niall
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 11:41 +0200, Al Forbes wrote:
> > >
> > >> Maybe we can get some roadmap and dates from Aaron so that a few more
> > >> people can help with this task.
> > >>
> > >> The jdk1.3 compliant branch will always exist. Any major bugs can be
> > >> backports to this branch for the folks still using jdk1.3.
> > >>
> > >> Move to the back ported concurrent library (See
> > >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JCS-13)
> > >>
> > >> I guess many people will probably move directly from jdk1.3 to
> > >> jdk1.5,
> > >> so in the distant future it should be easy to move from the
> > >> backported
> > >> classes to the native implementation.
> > >>
> > >> Al.
> > >>
> > >> On 04/04/07, Jon Barber <jbarber@lastminute.com> wrote:
> > >>> Exactly. There are many large companies that will be using JDK
> > >>> 1.4 or
> > >>> earlier for some time.
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: James Taylor [mailto:james@jamestaylor.org]
> > >>> Sent: 04 April 2007 05:05
> > >>> To: JCS Users List
> > >>> Subject: Re: New Release w/o util.concurrent library?
> > >>>
> > >>> Maybe you should look at how the pieces JCS uses from
> > >>> ***.concurrent and
> > >>> determine whether the improvements to those pieces justify breaking
> > >>> compatibility with older releases of the JVM that some people are
> > >>> still
> > >>> running...
> > >>>
> > >>> (Hint: they don't)
> > >>>
> > >>> On Apr 3, 2007, at 11:53 PM, Eric Everman wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> J2SE5 package java.util.concurrent includes improved, more
> > >>>>> efficient,
> > >>>
> > >>>>> standardized versions of the main components in this package.
> > >>>>> Please
> > >>>>> plan to convert your applications to use them.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Isn't it time to move on?
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________
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> > >
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>
> ____________________________________
> Niall Gallagher
>
> Senior Developer / Architect
> Switchfire Ltd.
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>              + 44 (0)20 7798 2807
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>              + 44 (0)20 7798 2801
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