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From Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com>
Subject Re: Help for a new user
Date Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:55:28 GMT
Lucene is embedded in Jackrabbit.
You should look at Solr (http://lucene.apache.org/solr/)
"Solr is a standalone enterprise search server with a REST-like API. You 
put documents in it (called "indexing") via XML, JSON, CSV or binary 
over HTTP. You query it via HTTP GET and receive XML, JSON, CSV or 
binary results."

A repository might be helpful in organizing a document library in 
multiple virtual hierarchies without duplication.
It also gives you a lot of flexibility in access control.

But you may not need one.

Ron

On 17/08/2014 1:27 PM, Julián wrote:
> Thanks again for your response Ron.
> It seems you're the one in the mailing list. Perhaps people are on 
> their holidays.
>
> I'm beginning to realize that I was wrong.
>
> Because of your response, I've been looking for information and I've 
> found Apache Lucene and Apache Tika. I have to try both, but it seems 
> that they can work toghether for extracting and indexing files, and 
> tika supports lots of formats.
>
> I'm considering that I don't need to use jackrabbit for my application 
> actually. Perhaps, I only need those tools to search inside the files 
> I want to store.
> I'm think I don't need a repository. I can save the properties of the 
> files in a database, and the files in normal folders.
> I think it'd be pretty easy for me because I'm used to work with 
> databases, but I've never worked with a repository.
> In fact, I was going to use the repository for its search 
> capabilities, but I'm realizing that I don't need it.
> I'm going to try with Lucene and Tika first.
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Ron Wheeler" <rwheeler@artifact-software.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 8:09 PM
> To: <users@jackrabbit.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Help for a new user
>
>> Some ideas that may be helpful.
>> If you want to search inside Jackrabbit using its internal search 
>> engine, you are going to have to extract the text on the way in.
>> I think that this means using the appropriate tool to read the 
>> content from the incoming document and creating a document linked to 
>> the original that can be searched by Jackrabbit and then used to find 
>> the original PDF or DOC or XLS, etc. to present to the user.
>>
>> This should be possible for most of the common documents since there 
>> are Apache tools such as POI that let you read DOC and XLS files and 
>> extract the content.
>> http://pdfbox.apache.org
>> http://poi.apache.org/
>> http://www.swftools.org/
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Xml
>>
>> This can be a reasonably general solution if you add a facility that 
>> allows users to manually write a document summary or keyword list  
>> for documents in formats that you do not support or that do not 
>> contain text that describes their content or usage - CAD drawings, 
>> Quickbooks backups, database backups, etc.
>>
>> I hope that this gives you something to think about until a real 
>> Jackrabbit expert shows up.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> On 16/08/2014 12:49 PM, Julián wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>> I've been able to use a repository in my JSF application at last. If 
>>> someone has a similar problem, I can help him.
>>>
>>> Now, I would like to insert some files (.doc, .pdf, ...), and search 
>>> for words into them, like google.
>>> I suposse that I'll have to use text extractors, and I'll have to 
>>> configure the repository to index the files.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know where I can find some examples?
>>> Can anyone tell me where to look for?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Ron Wheeler" <rwheeler@artifact-software.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 7:09 PM
>>> To: <users@jackrabbit.apache.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Help for a new user
>>>
>>>> Did you get the example from 
>>>> http://jackrabbit.apache.org/first-hops.html working?
>>>>
>>>> You probably should get Eclipse working with Maven. That will get 
>>>> rid of some of the headaches.
>>>>
>>>> If you want a fast way to get up and running with Exclipse and 
>>>> Maven try Eclipse STS. It is an Eclipse that comes out of the box 
>>>> with all the plug-ins that you need to develop Java applications 
>>>> with Maven.
>>>> This get rid of the need to set up software on classpaths manually.
>>>>
>>>> Once you have the first hop demo working, you should be able to 
>>>> make your simple web app.
>>>> At least you will have specific log messages to talk about.
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/08/2014 7:54 AM, Julián wrote:
>>>>> (sorry for my english)
>>>>> I'm very new at java, javaEE,  web-development world, and, of 
>>>>> course, jackrabbit environment.
>>>>> I'm a student and I'm working in my degree project. An "easy" 
>>>>> document management system.
>>>>> I only need users to get their documents and to be able to search 
>>>>> groups of words into them (PDF, DOC, XLS ...) like a google search.
>>>>> I've heard about jackrabbit's benefits, so I've decided to use it. 
>>>>> (I suposse jackrabbit can do those task ?)
>>>>>
>>>>> I am developing an "easy" JSF application with Primefaces, 
>>>>> Mysql... and now, I'm in the phase when I have to manage the 
>>>>> documents.
>>>>> I've read the JSR 283 specification, and I undestand it more or 
>>>>> less. My problem is how to begin.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need someone to show me a simple example to create and access a 
>>>>> repository. The repository only have to work with my application 
>>>>> in a tomcat server.
>>>>> I've been looking for information on the Internet and I'm 
>>>>> absolutely lost. Everyone say different things. I haven't been 
>>>>> able to find an "easy" example about I need.
>>>>> In Jackrabbit's web, I've been reading about deployments models, 
>>>>> stand-alone server,  Jackrabbit Web application, Jackrabbit JCA 
>>>>> Resource Adapter ...
>>>>> Oh my god! Is it really so difficult what I want to do? I don't 
>>>>> think so, perhaps I'm getting older...
>>>>>
>>>>> I only need:
>>>>> 1º when a client access the application for the first time, the 
>>>>> repository will be created in a specified path.
>>>>> 2º Clients will upload files, search for content, and download them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm now in the first point. Can anyone help me?
>>>>> I use the eclipse IDE and I don't use maven.
>>>>> What "jars" must I include in my classpath?
>>>>> what java instructions do I need to create and set up the 
>>>>> repository? In the JSR specification, they use the 
>>>>> RepositoryFactory class. Is it the way to do it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot, and sorry for my ignorance.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Ron Wheeler
>>>> President
>>>> Artifact Software Inc
>>>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>>>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>>>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Ron Wheeler
>> President
>> Artifact Software Inc
>> email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
>> skype: ronaldmwheeler
>> phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
>>
>
> ---
> Este mensaje no contiene virus ni malware porque la protección de 
> avast! Antivirus está activa.
> http://www.avast.com
>
>


-- 
Ron Wheeler
President
Artifact Software Inc
email: rwheeler@artifact-software.com
skype: ronaldmwheeler
phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102


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