Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jackrabbit-users-archive@locus.apache.org Received: (qmail 43004 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2007 08:19:17 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Jul 2007 08:19:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 65932 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jul 2007 08:18:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jackrabbit-users-archive@jackrabbit.apache.org Received: (qmail 65912 invoked by uid 500); 20 Jul 2007 08:18:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact users-help@jackrabbit.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: users@jackrabbit.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list users@jackrabbit.apache.org Received: (qmail 65899 invoked by uid 99); 20 Jul 2007 08:18:44 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:18:44 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of the.mindstorm.mailinglist@gmail.com designates 209.85.146.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.146.181] (HELO wa-out-1112.google.com) (209.85.146.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:18:41 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id m34so1178418wag for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:18:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=agHNU6T4meCoZkipA6M53LQm26nW3jRErZpUq8Jg5PRPat94JWquQs284zderclh2DrdLq+t+eNWbgoyMKEtvcvLUMsxwBBAMMDJcPD9fIWwen6iXHvQ0AHTsc3BZeY46cBnkHBcMVfhmZQKS3tM/6QALhxltGpJzWOK1GpsbAc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PwUV2jTksI9gMM4LUbReBHiM3ttijXHM9GmBxN48oKmGUDJsFsyePuaqmiwPHg74eRx37WBafyjKl+02Kphw4j6y7Pm8AFBGMzAhAiOY6Q1r+fT2JD6NYwzEEjzevwcZk1xzwyk+lvHUMb9VgVqMESvUk+gNXGJQWHCb8TOFZoQ= Received: by 10.114.169.2 with SMTP id r2mr241603wae.1184919500546; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.150.12 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 01:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:18:20 +0300 From: "=?UTF-8?Q?Alexandru_Popescu_=E2=98=80?=" To: users@jackrabbit.apache.org Subject: Re: Isolation level inconsistency. In-Reply-To: <46A06850.4050303@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070719233057.7B70810FB051@herse.apache.org> <46A06850.4050303@gmx.de> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 7/20/07, Julian Reschke wrote: > Hendrik Beck (camunda) wrote: > > One more thing I want to say: > > > > "again you're proposing a major change to JCR." > > > > "Maybe it's just me, but I have no idea how that could be implemented > > efficiently, *in > > particular* if you don't have the luxury to develop that functionality from > > scratch." > > > > > > 1) In my eyes the public review is there to give any feedback, to discuss > > everything and to make proposals, whether they are major changes or just > > little remarks. > > That's right. The point I was trying to make (and apparently failed) was > that this is a major change to *JCR 1.0*. > > > 2) I wouldn't agree that discussions about implementation details should be > > part of a public review of a specification. Sure we should keep an eye on > > the implementation, it has to be done at some point. But, we talk about JCR, > > not Jackrabbit. The JCR specification shouldn't take care about > > implementation details of one product (Jackrabbit), but it should find the > > best way to make the specification according to people's needs and > > requirements. > > Actually, I wasn't talking about Jackrabbit either. > > If JCR 2.0 adds requirements that are unlikely to be implemented, that's > IMHO a problem. Either you'll end up with no implementations, or with > broken implementations (with respect to that feature). > > Best regards, Julian > > I agree with both you comments here. However, I do feel that the OP may be right (I confess that I was not facing this situation so far, but this is probably because my app is a bit different). I would really appreciate if somebody would post on this thread a scenario in which the current behavior is proving helpful (and I have in mind the scenario posted here: searching for a John and getting a Joe instead -- frankly speaking I would be totally surprised in real life if I would be looking for my wife and getting somebody else instead :-) ). bests, ./alex -- .w( the_mindstorm )p.