Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-jackrabbit-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 28166 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2010 10:43:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by 140.211.11.9 with SMTP; 1 Dec 2010 10:43:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 47043 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2010 10:43:16 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-jackrabbit-dev-archive@jackrabbit.apache.org Received: (qmail 46873 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2010 10:43:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@jackrabbit.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@jackrabbit.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@jackrabbit.apache.org Received: (qmail 46866 invoked by uid 99); 1 Dec 2010 10:43:16 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:43:16 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=10.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS,T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of stefan.guggisberg@gmail.com designates 209.85.213.170 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.213.170] (HELO mail-yx0-f170.google.com) (209.85.213.170) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 10:43:10 +0000 Received: by yxi11 with SMTP id 11so3202285yxi.1 for ; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 02:42:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FbV7xPFkRQMYwIQHAXeSoh2ySyei68zTFqDgyyWI3sQ=; b=EI73EmTMGHan0lTrHBum0Z2uwKvNton/LGdAj1x4vU4VoY1KymS8rWLlw03HcKcpWn kY+zonXRaNKhDVxeWoaRNyAj3CSUV5lNvu7fQnpXsuqNFPBwejATkPgyMn7/ssVqAxZC CrfdlAAj53Hk5yIlH8ENLcpMRLB8naTB/w8Qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Df5RfViXwkgANTzI85X+9W++paPnSM9ZtBPcjqnns1y2XiC6QsbJ/XG8rZJBckFx08 oa09GhaIsKJmIHLiZ4xR3J0xu2/NXE/eahvSWyBnzyQk4/YweP9oJlIACnWal34qf+Cl J7B3KSEnCY6tyksaV+pmd77zqGEJ7LGSFjZyc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.213.10 with SMTP id l10mr6096334ang.160.1291200169396; Wed, 01 Dec 2010 02:42:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.92.20 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Dec 2010 02:42:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 11:42:49 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [jr3] One Project From: Stefan Guggisberg To: dev@jackrabbit.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > (I'm not a developer here, so consider this peanut gallery talk) > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: >> ....I think reducing the number of >> projects for Jackrabbit 3 will result in a simpler, more standard build.... > > Reducing the number of Maven modules probably makes sense, but "just > one module" is probably too much of a restriction. Granularity is a > hard problem, and extreme views on that usually don't work, in my > experience. > >> ...If we include all dependencies (such as Apache Commons jar files) you >> would need a special class loader, right? Otherwise there may be conflicts >> with if somebody already uses a different version of a Apache Commons >> library that Jackrabbit also uses. That would be quite complex I guess, so >> I wouldn't do that. Instead, I would just concentrate on having as few jar >> files as possible... > > OSGi solves that problem nicely, so you can have multiple versions of the same jar/bundle concurrently deployed in the same osgi container? > and the base framework is not heavy at all. > > Having a small set of OSGi-friendly (but maybe not OSGi-based, for > broad use) jars for jr3, and combining them with an OSGi runtime for > the out-of-the-box jr3 runnable jar, might be the best way to solve > this. > >>... I think it would be an advantage if we could reduce the >> number of dependencies however (maybe even make Lucene optional - that >> would allow to use Jackrabbit on Android).... > > Agree about making indexing/search pluggable - I have a few use cases > in mind (like using Solr or what Apache Stanbol is starting to create) > where alternate/multiple indexing systems would add a lot of value. > > BTW, is there an agreed upon set of goals for jr3 somewhere? > > There have been discussions on this list, but if jr3 development is > about to ramp up now might be a good time to make sure all developers > are on the same page w.r.t development goals and constraints. > > -Bertrand >