Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-jackrabbit-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 3336 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2005 14:21:02 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 15 Dec 2005 14:21:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 6215 invoked by uid 500); 15 Dec 2005 14:21:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jackrabbit-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jackrabbit-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jackrabbit-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 6201 invoked by uid 99); 15 Dec 2005 14:21:00 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:21:00 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [217.72.192.226] (HELO smtp08.web.de) (217.72.192.226) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:20:58 -0800 Received: from [213.39.174.101] (helo=Laptop) by smtp08.web.de with esmtp (WEB.DE 4.105 #340) id 1EmtyH-00017r-00 for jackrabbit-dev@incubator.apache.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:20:37 +0100 From: "Daniel Florey" To: Subject: AW: webdav server(s) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:21:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <90a8d1c00512150539u4361ebd4s87900ea2ce3cdb6f@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcYBfQQ4KuarNQqHR5CuLZGCZA+diAABaqog X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-Id: Sender: daniel.florey@web.de X-Sender: daniel.florey@web.de X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: = jackrabbit-dev-return-4916-daniel.florey=3Dweb.de@incubator.apache.org > [mailto:jackrabbit-dev-return-4916- > daniel.florey=3Dweb.de@incubator.apache.org] Im Auftrag von Stefan > Guggisberg > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Dezember 2005 14:39 > An: jackrabbit-dev@incubator.apache.org > Betreff: Re: webdav server(s) >=20 > On 12/15/05, Daniel Florey wrote: > > Yes and no... There is not much visible recent activity on the Slide > > project. But nevertheless as many companies are using Slide (JBoss- > Portal, >=20 > hmmm, JBoss Portal 2.2 doesn't seem to be using Slide: >=20 > http://www.jboss.com/pdf/jbw_barc/integ_middleware/jboss_portal.pdf >=20 > cheers > stefan Hmmm, I just remembered this announcement from the Slide mailing list: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/jakarta-slide-user/200508.mbox/%= 3c4 2FB4A36.8060108@jboss.org%3e >=20 > > Software AG and others), so there is still some work going on under = the > > hood. > > Unfortunately there is nobody doing the more painful jobs = (maintaining > the > > website, fixing bugs in the svn, preparing releases, applying = patches). > > If you know someone interested in this, send him/her over to the = Slide > lists > > ;-) > > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: jackrabbit-dev-return-4906- > daniel.florey=3Dweb.de@incubator.apache.org > > > [mailto:jackrabbit-dev-return-4906- > > > daniel.florey=3Dweb.de@incubator.apache.org] Im Auftrag von John > Mazzitelli > > > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 21:29 > > > An: jackrabbit-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > Betreff: RE: webdav server(s) > > > > > > > If the people still working on Slide could be brought over > > > > > > You are assuming there *are* still people working on Slide :-). AFAIK, > > > it's a dead project and no one is doing anything of significance = to it. > > > > > > The last bit of news on it was a year ago - > > > > > > http://jakarta.apache.org/slide/news.html > > > > > > -- > > > John Mazz > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Robert r. Sanders [mailto:robert.sanders@ipov.net] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:27 PM > > > > To: jackrabbit-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > > Subject: Re: webdav server(s) > > > > > > > > As someone who has been monitoring both Jackrabbit and Slide > > > > lists this > > > > idea struck me before. If the people still working on Slide = could > be > > > > brought over to work with some of the Jackrabbit people it > > > > seems to me > > > > that this would be in the best interests of both communities. > > > > I don't > > > > know how this would be done, or wether a TLP or a subproject > > > > would be a > > > > better alternative. While they aren't the same (and I am not > > > > an expert > > > > on either) it seems obvious that there are some gains to be made = by > > > > having a full featured WebDAV server with a JCR backend. > > > > > > > > St=E9phane Croisier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > There is a thread running on right now on the Slide Dev List = about > > > > > moving Slide to a Top Level Apache Project (TLP). Currently we = are > > > > > using Slide as a temporary solution to store some binary > > > > files for our > > > > > CMS and I agree quite a lot with the conclusions of > > > > Brian... The Slide > > > > > project is nearly dead and without nearly any activities from > > > > > beginning of this year. > > > > > > > > > > So the best solution would certainly be to open a new > > > > "dav.apache.org" > > > > > top level project which would include a Slide 3.0 full = refactoring > > > > > based on Jackrabbit (or whatever would be the new name of such = a > > > > > project) and try to gather all the currently scarce DAV > > > > ressources and > > > > > expertises into one single project.... Then CalDAV or other = DAV > > > > > extensions would then also easily fit in such a new TLP... > > > > > > > > > > My 2 cts... > > > > > St=E9phane > > > > > > > > > > At 17:31 14.12.2005, Brian Moseley wrote: > > > > >> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>>> personally, i have no interest in working on such a thing. = i > > > > >>>> wouldn't tell somebody not to do it, but i wouldn't help > > > > them either. > > > > >>> Can you tell us why? > > > > >> > > > > >> i found the slide codebase to be extremely confusing, verging = on > > > > >> incomprehensible. i was unable to make heads or tails of > > > > the apis and > > > > >> had only the vaguest inkling of how i might extend it for = caldav. > > > > >> > > > > >> by contrast, the jcr-server design is relatively simple > > > > and elegant, > > > > >> and the extension points are natural and obvious. > > > > >> > > > > >> also the slide community didn't seem to have much momentum = back > in > > > > >> the spring of 2005. there was no defined release plan and > > > > extremely > > > > >> little support on the mailing list. the documentation that > existed > > > > >> was sparse and often frustratingly unintelligible, so when = you > had > > > > >> questions, you were basically screwed. > > > > >> > > > > >> things might have changed for the better with slide, but i'm = not > > > > >> optimistic. i vastly prefer the jackrabbit code and = community. > > > > > > > > > > - -- --- -----=3D[ scroisier2 at jahia dot com ]=3D---- --- -- = - > > > > > www.jahia.org : The Java Unified Web Platform > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Robert r. Sanders > > > > Chief Technologist > > > > iPOV > > > > (334) 821-5412 > > > > www.ipov.net > > > > > > > > > > > >