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Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:39:22 +0100
From: Stefan Guggisberg <stefan.guggisberg@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: webdav server(s)
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On 12/15/05, Daniel Florey <daniel.florey@web.de> wrote:
> Yes and no... There is not much visible recent activity on the Slide
> project. But nevertheless as many companies are using Slide (JBoss-Portal=
,

hmmm, JBoss Portal 2.2 doesn't seem to be using Slide:

http://www.jboss.com/pdf/jbw_barc/integ_middleware/jboss_portal.pdf

cheers
stefan

> Software AG and others), so there is still some work going on under the
> hood.
> Unfortunately there is nobody doing the more painful jobs (maintaining th=
e
> website, fixing bugs in the svn, preparing releases, applying patches).
> If you know someone interested in this, send him/her over to the Slide li=
sts
> ;-)
>
> > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: jackrabbit-dev-return-4906-daniel.florey=3Dweb.de@incubator.apache=
.org
> > [mailto:jackrabbit-dev-return-4906-
> > daniel.florey=3Dweb.de@incubator.apache.org] Im Auftrag von John Mazzit=
elli
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. Dezember 2005 21:29
> > An: jackrabbit-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Betreff: RE: webdav server(s)
> >
> > > If the people still working on Slide could be brought over
> >
> > You are assuming there *are* still people working on Slide :-).  AFAIK,
> > it's a dead project and no one is doing anything of significance to it.
> >
> > The last bit of news on it was a year ago -
> >
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/slide/news.html
> >
> > --
> > John Mazz
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert r. Sanders [mailto:robert.sanders@ipov.net]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 2:27 PM
> > > To: jackrabbit-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: webdav server(s)
> > >
> > > As someone who has been monitoring both Jackrabbit and Slide
> > > lists this
> > > idea struck me before.  If the people still working on Slide could be
> > > brought over to work with some of the Jackrabbit people it
> > > seems to me
> > > that this would be in the best interests of both communities.
> > >  I don't
> > > know how this would be done, or wether a TLP or a subproject
> > > would be a
> > > better alternative. While they aren't the same (and I am not
> > > an expert
> > > on either) it seems obvious that there are some gains to be made by
> > > having a full featured WebDAV server with a JCR backend.
> > >
> > > St=E9phane Croisier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is a thread running on right now on the Slide Dev List about
> > > > moving Slide to a Top Level Apache Project (TLP). Currently we are
> > > > using Slide as a temporary solution to store some binary
> > > files for our
> > > > CMS and I agree quite a lot with the conclusions of
> > > Brian... The Slide
> > > > project is nearly dead and without nearly any activities from
> > > > beginning of this year.
> > > >
> > > > So the best solution would certainly be to open a new
> > > "dav.apache.org"
> > > > top level project which would include a Slide 3.0 full refactoring
> > > > based on Jackrabbit (or whatever would be the new name of such a
> > > > project) and try to gather all the currently scarce DAV
> > > ressources and
> > > > expertises into one single project.... Then CalDAV or other DAV
> > > > extensions would then also easily fit in such a new TLP...
> > > >
> > > > My 2 cts...
> > > > St=E9phane
> > > >
> > > > At 17:31 14.12.2005, Brian Moseley wrote:
> > > >> Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>> personally, i have no interest in working on such a thing. i
> > > >>>> wouldn't tell somebody not to do it, but i wouldn't help
> > > them either.
> > > >>> Can you tell us why?
> > > >>
> > > >> i found the slide codebase to be extremely confusing, verging on
> > > >> incomprehensible. i was unable to make heads or tails of
> > > the apis and
> > > >> had only the vaguest inkling of how i might extend it for caldav.
> > > >>
> > > >> by contrast, the jcr-server design is relatively simple
> > > and elegant,
> > > >> and the extension points are natural and obvious.
> > > >>
> > > >> also the slide community didn't seem to have much momentum back in
> > > >> the spring of 2005. there was no defined release plan and
> > > extremely
> > > >> little support on the mailing list. the documentation that existed
> > > >> was sparse and often frustratingly unintelligible, so when you had
> > > >> questions, you were basically screwed.
> > > >>
> > > >> things might have changed for the better with slide, but i'm not
> > > >> optimistic. i vastly prefer the jackrabbit code and community.
> > > >
> > > > - -- --- -----=3D[ scroisier2 at jahia dot com ]=3D---- --- -- -
> > > > www.jahia.org : The Java Unified Web Platform
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >     Robert r. Sanders
> > >     Chief Technologist
> > >     iPOV
> > >     (334) 821-5412
> > >     www.ipov.net
> > >
> > >
>
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