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From Michael Wechner <michael.wech...@wyona.com>
Subject Re: namespaces
Date Wed, 16 Mar 2005 21:30:46 GMT
Stefan Guggisberg wrote:

>>If you feel annoyed by the lack of pro-activity on other people's side,
>>you are welcome not to reply and ignore them.
>fair enough. although i think that people on the list should be encouraged 
>to have at least a look at the api documentation before they ask
>a basic  question about an api method in the development list i accept 
>your advice and i'll let other people answer them.

you might call me stupid, but I even printed the 269 pages of the 0.16.2 
spec and
I am taking a look at it before I post my questions.

But as mentioned before it's not so easy if one hasn't grown up with the 
and might expect something else from time to time.

"Help me and I will help the next one". This is one way how we can scale and
I am aware that some people just consume, but that's how it is, whereas 
is forced to answer and each of us can decide who to ignore.

Ok, getting back to my namespace problem ;-)



>>Do you know the Postel Principle? "be strict in what you send, be
>>forgiving in what you receive", this is how the internet can work in
>>practice, but it's a very useful thing, it helps in human collaborations
>>as well, especially in wide and across cultures ones, like this that we
>>are trying to build.
>>Apache is about community, not code. You are one of the development
>>leaders of this project and for that reason, like it or not, you have a
>>responsibility: the responsibility of helping out in making sure that
>>our users and developers feel welcome even when they screw up, even when
>>they are lazy, even when they make silly (for you!) mistakes.
>>A community of smart asses will not bloom: it go down in flames. Been
>>there, done that. I still have scars from Avalon that prove all that. We
>>had to kill it before its cancer grew in other sides of the foundation.
>>The last thing I want is this project to fail incubation for community
>>reasons and there will be no way to attract external committers if they
>>won't feel welcome.
>>Ah, one last thing, when you write an email, remember that this is a
>>very public forum and that these messages are archived in many different
>>places, which means that they won't go away. Think about emails that you
>>wrote 10 years ago and think about how these will feel 10 years for now.
>>Food for thought.

Michael Wechner
Wyona Inc.  -   Open Source Content Management   -   Apache Lenya
http://www.wyona.com                      http://lenya.apache.org
michael.wechner@wyona.com                        michi@apache.org

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