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From SE Song <seson...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Customize UI behavior
Date Wed, 22 Nov 2017 11:43:00 GMT
Moving off isn't my option, because I love Apache Isis anyways. Only one
thing that I doesn't like is UI, that's why I try to use ZK as my UI. I
know I'm going to throws out one of the framework's key features, but Apache
Isis isn't just a tool for generate UI, there are a lot more features.

ZK isn't just a viewer or Frontend Layer, it also has Presentation Layer,
On my previous project I use ZK & JDBC using Constructor. while Apache Isis
using Dependency Injection @Inject, But I don't have a lot of experience on
this. I also doubt what I'm trying to do the wrong ways. But If this
possible, I will be able to build a greate development environment. So I
try all options that maybe possible for me and meet my requirement.

It also has advantage for a Framework which be able to integrate with other
Framework for multiple options.

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Stephen Cameron <steve.cameron.62@gmail.com
> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I seriously doubt this can work in the way you imagine.
>
> You'd have to write a whole new ZK based viewer (like the standard Wicket
> one).  See the org.apache.isis.viewer.wicket.* packages (4 jars) in the
> Maven dependencies of the webapp.
>
> Maybe Dan is suggesting to move off Apache Isis once you are happy with
> your domain model, so Apache Isis is only used for prototyping?
>
> Steve
>
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 5:57 PM, SE Song <sesong11@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I already create a repository here https://github.com/sesong11/
> > ApacheIsisZK
> > and create ZK VM here
> > https://github.com/sesong11/ApacheIsisZK/blob/master/
> webapp/src/main/java/
> > domainapp/webapp/zkvm/SampleVM.java
> >
> > Now another issue on integrating ZK, I can't Inject my repository on ZK
> VM,
> > Everything ok, excepted Injecting Service, it always null.
> >
> > The problem is ZK initiate VM using Contructor, @PostConstruct on ZK VM
> has
> > never been called. Can you please help me how to Inject service outside
> of
> > container, or guide me another possible ways
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 10:48 AM, SE Song <sesong11@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm building an business process application, we manage staff
> information
> > > and request form such as Leave Request, OT, IT Form...
> > > each form mush has at least employee info, and form detail...
> > >
> > > Auto generate UI is very good idea, e.s it's testable too. But
> Management
> > > are not developer, it's very difficult to convince them about changing
> > > their ideas, they always ask what they want.
> > > They always concern about look and feel at first.
> > >
> > > I will create a repository for integrate  Apache Isis and ZK framework
> > for
> > > UI, If everything go well, I will use ZK for Frontend Layer and
> > > Presentation Layer,
> > > and Apache Isis for Business Logic, Business Model and Data Layer. I
> also
> > > concern about integrating ZK VM to Isis Repository too, because ZK use
> > > Constructor out site container,
> > > so Inject Service maybe impossible or difficult. But I will try and
> post
> > > on Github
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Dan Haywood <
> > > dan@haywood-associates.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >> If the behaviour of the text field in particular is problematic, then
> > you
> > >> can develop and plug in a different implementation using the Wicket
> > >> framework.  The Wicket viewer guide has details on how to do this
> > >> (fullcalendar2, gmap3 use this API).
> > >>
> > >> That said...
> > >>
> > >> You said your pages are form heavy, and are all view models. I wonder
> > >> therefore whether you are fighting the framework too much.  Why are
> you
> > >> using view models rather than just surface entities? Why do your users
> > >> need
> > >> so much  information on a single page - what use cases are you trying
> to
> > >> support? Where is this app on the "problem solver Vs process follower"
> > >> axis?
> > >>
> > >> One option for you might be to use Isis as a development environment
> (to
> > >> build a good quality domain model) but then write a custom UI, eg in
> ZK
> > on
> > >> top of it. Obviously this throws out one of the framework's key
> > features,
> > >> but you get full flexibility to do whatever. Or, you could use the
> Rest
> > >> api
> > >> to accomplish the same.
> > >>
> > >> But, I do suggest you also try to work within the constraints of the
> > >> framework, and see what that gives you. We know of plenty of "problem
> > >> solver" type apps that are out there that work well enough without
> lots
> > of
> > >> customisations.
> > >>
> > >> Hth,
> > >> Dan.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017, 12:11 SE Song, <sesong11@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Yes, I am learning about it. And another option for me is using ZK
> > >> > framework for UI
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 6:27 PM, Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel / Ham
> > >> GI-DP <
> > >> > Joerg.Rade@kuehne-nagel.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Have you considered using the RestfulObjects interface [1] yet?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -j
> > >> > > [1] https://isis.apache.org/guides/ugvro/ugvro.html
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > >> > > Von: SE Song [mailto:sesong11@gmail.com]
> > >> > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. November 2017 11:28
> > >> > > An: users@isis.apache.org
> > >> > > Betreff: Re: Customize UI behavior
> > >> > >
> > >> > > My issue isn't just scrolling, but also behavior of Textbox.
If
> it's
> > >> > > possible to change it behavior from clicking and show OK Button
&
> > >> Cancel
> > >> > > Button to use ajax to bind it to VM without bother user to click
> > >> submit.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Stephen Cameron <
> > >> > > steve.cameron.62@gmail.com
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Ok,  but using tabs via layout.xml is still an option.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Maybe using a JAXB VM causes a full page reload?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Do you have to use them?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:13 PM, SE Song <sesong11@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > It always scroll like this.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > ​
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 5:10 PM, SE Song <sesong11@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> Sorry that I did not specified that I am using
JAXB VM. It
> just
> > >> > > > >> submit
> > >> > > > to
> > >> > > > >> VM
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 4:48 PM, Stephen Cameron
<
> > >> > > > >> steve.cameron.62@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>> More details here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
> > v=MxewC5Pve5k
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:46 PM, Stephen Cameron
<
> > >> > > > >>> steve.cameron.62@gmail.com
> > >> > > > >>> > wrote:
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>> > Have you tried using tabs via the xxx.layout.xml?
> > >> > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > >>> > My pages aren't more than one screen height
and I've not
> had
> > >> the
> > >> > > > other
> > >> > > > >>> > problems that you indicate, Apache Isis
doesn't submit a
> > form
> > >> in
> > >> > > > >>> > the
> > >> > > > >>> sense
> > >> > > > >>> > of an HTML <form> element, each
click of OK submits the
> > >> updated
> > >> > > > >>> > value
> > >> > > > >>> to
> > >> > > > >>> > the database.
> > >> > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > >>> > On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 8:36 PM, SE Song
<
> > sesong11@gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > >>> >> Dear All,
> > >> > > > >>> >>
> > >> > > > >>> >> After presentation Apache Isis to
my manager, what he
> > doesn't
> > >> > > > >>> >> like
> > >> > > > is
> > >> > > > >>> UI,
> > >> > > > >>> >> Because the application which I am
developing is HR
> System,
> > >> > > > >>> >> which
> > >> > > > has
> > >> > > > >>> a
> > >> > > > >>> >> lot
> > >> > > > >>> >> of form, so UX is very important for
us.
> > >> > > > >>> >>
> > >> > > > >>> >> After Using Apache Isis for a while
I have some problem
> on
> > UI
> > >> > > > >>> behavior as
> > >> > > > >>> >> bellow:
> > >> > > > >>> >> 1. When I click on the control it
always scroll to top,
> so
> > if
> > >> > > > >>> >> my
> > >> > > > from
> > >> > > > >>> has
> > >> > > > >>> >> 2x of screen high, user will very
difficult for input
> data.
> > >> > > > >>> >> 2. When user click on a textbox it
always show "OK" and
> > >> "Cancel"
> > >> > > > >>> button,
> > >> > > > >>> >> OK
> > >> > > > >>> >> button use submit, this make my form
refresh every time I
> > >> press
> > >> > > > Enter
> > >> > > > >>> or
> > >> > > > >>> >> Click "OK", so it always scroll back
to top and destroy
> > >> another
> > >> > > > field
> > >> > > > >>> that
> > >> > > > >>> >> I did not submit.
> > >> > > > >>> >> 3. I want to change behavior of textbox
from Clicking
> > Submit
> > >> to
> > >> > > > >>> >> use
> > >> > > > >>> jQuery
> > >> > > > >>> >> (ZK like) to send data to my VM when
user Lost Focus on
> > >> textbox.
> > >> > > > >>> >>
> > >> > > > >>> >> Please help to guide me what should
I do/learn to solve
> > this
> > >> > > > problem.
> > >> > > > >>> >>
> > >> > > > >>> >>
> > >> > > > >>> >> Another option for me is to integrate
Apache Isis with ZK
> > >> > > Framework.
> > >> > > > >>> ZK
> > >> > > > >>> >> framework for implement presentation
layer and fronted
> > layer.
> > >> > > > >>> >> Is
> > >> > > > this
> > >> > > > >>> >> option possible?
> > >> > > > >>> >>
> > >> > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > >>> >
> > >> > > > >>>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
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