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From Dain Gosbee <dain.m.gos...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Project name
Date Mon, 23 Nov 2015 16:19:41 GMT
Hi guys,

I just wanted to chime in here.  Personally, I would also advocate changing
the name.  I would also be happy to take part in suggesting name changes.

Just wanted to add my two cents.


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Sincerely,
Dain Gosbee

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Cesar Lugo <cesar.lugo@sisorg.com.mx>
wrote:

> Hi, just another user here. I ran into the same issues, searching for
> Apache ISIS gives similar results because the Apache helicopters agains
> Isis. Looking for Apache ISIS framework works much better for me. I hope
> that helps.
>
> Cesar.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel / Ham GI-PS [mailto:
> Joerg.Rade@Kuehne-Nagel.com]
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:23 AM
> To: users@isis.apache.org
> Subject: AW: Project name
>
> Hi,
>
> in German media IS now is used instead of ISIS when referring to [2].
> I thought Apache Isis was named after the Egyptian goodness [1].
>
> BTW: When I searched for 'Naked Objects' I saw a filter message as well ;-)
>
> Jörg
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis
> [2] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jeroen van der Wal [mailto:jeroen@stromboli.it]
> Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 11:32
> An: users
> Betreff: Re: Project name
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Welcome to this mailing list!
>
> We've had a similar discussion about a year ago [1] and decided then to
> leave the project name as it is. But if there are new circumstances we
> might need to reconsider. As you may have noticed we always refer to the
> project as "Apache Isis", not "ISIS". In Dutch media I see a trend of
> abandoning ISIS in favour of IS and Daesh [2] but don't know the situation
> well in foreign media. Personally I think the current name does not hinder
> our growth and changing the name would not speed up things either. I'm
> still biased to leave things as they are and devote our limited resources
> in making our framework better.
>
> FYI: the project has been named after the river Isis, the part of the
> river Thames that flows through Oxford [3].
>
> Jeroen
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-982
> [2]
>
> http://theweek.com/speedreads/446139/france-says-name-isis-offensive-call-daesh-instead
> [3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Isis
>
> On 23 November 2015 at 06:55, Andrew Voumard <andrewv@melbpc.org.au>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Have there been any suggestions or thoughts of changing the project
> > name from isis to something else ? I only ask, because searching for
> > apache isis usually brings up some unwanted / unsavoury results, and I
> > would expect that might just increase over time. It also might trigger
> > email spam filtering, company firewall rules, etc to kick in for some.
> > I could imagine other contexts in which the mere occurrence of the
> > word isis might create some unwanted distraction or issue.
> >
> > I can appreciate how much upheaval that such a name change could
> > cause, but nonetheless thought it worth asking about.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
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