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From Cesar Lugo <cesar.l...@sisorg.com.mx>
Subject RE: Project name
Date Mon, 23 Nov 2015 15:54:51 GMT
Hi, just another user here. I ran into the same issues, searching for Apache ISIS gives similar
results because the Apache helicopters agains Isis. Looking for Apache ISIS framework works
much better for me. I hope that helps.

Cesar.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rade, Joerg / Kuehne + Nagel / Ham GI-PS [mailto:Joerg.Rade@Kuehne-Nagel.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 5:23 AM
To: users@isis.apache.org
Subject: AW: Project name

Hi,

in German media IS now is used instead of ISIS when referring to [2].
I thought Apache Isis was named after the Egyptian goodness [1].

BTW: When I searched for 'Naked Objects' I saw a filter message as well ;-)

Jörg

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis
[2] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Jeroen van der Wal [mailto:jeroen@stromboli.it]
Gesendet: Montag, 23. November 2015 11:32
An: users
Betreff: Re: Project name

Hi Andrew,

Welcome to this mailing list!

We've had a similar discussion about a year ago [1] and decided then to leave the project
name as it is. But if there are new circumstances we might need to reconsider. As you may
have noticed we always refer to the project as "Apache Isis", not "ISIS". In Dutch media I
see a trend of abandoning ISIS in favour of IS and Daesh [2] but don't know the situation
well in foreign media. Personally I think the current name does not hinder our growth and
changing the name would not speed up things either. I'm still biased to leave things as they
are and devote our limited resources in making our framework better.

FYI: the project has been named after the river Isis, the part of the river Thames that flows
through Oxford [3].

Jeroen

[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-982
[2]
http://theweek.com/speedreads/446139/france-says-name-isis-offensive-call-daesh-instead
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Isis

On 23 November 2015 at 06:55, Andrew Voumard <andrewv@melbpc.org.au> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Have there been any suggestions or thoughts of changing the project 
> name from isis to something else ? I only ask, because searching for 
> apache isis usually brings up some unwanted / unsavoury results, and I 
> would expect that might just increase over time. It also might trigger 
> email spam filtering, company firewall rules, etc to kick in for some.
> I could imagine other contexts in which the mere occurrence of the 
> word isis might create some unwanted distraction or issue.
>
> I can appreciate how much upheaval that such a name change could 
> cause, but nonetheless thought it worth asking about.
>
> Thanks
>
>

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