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From "Jeremy Thomerson (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] Created: (INFRA-1602) Can not send email to wicket.apache.org lists from my new email address
Date Tue, 06 May 2008 13:48:55 GMT
Can not send email to wicket.apache.org lists from my new email address
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                 Key: INFRA-1602
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1602
             Project: Infrastructure
          Issue Type: Bug
      Security Level: public (Regular issues)
          Components: Mailing Lists
         Environment: Ubuntu / Firefox / Google Apps Mail
            Reporter: Jeremy Thomerson
            Priority: Minor


I have been subscribed to the wicket mailing lists for several years with my gmail.com address,
and always able to reply (been subscribed to the apache lists since they were created).  I
set up a new domain called wickettraining.com last week, and got it set up with Google Apps
for my email services.  I subscribed to users@wicket.apache.org and dev@.  I receive the messages
fine, but I can not reply to them from there, or send a new message from wickettraining.com
to the lists.

Interestingly, I can go to my jeremythomerson@gmail.com account, and tell it to send from
jeremy@wickettraining.com and it goes through fine (using Gmail's other accounts feature).
 That actually sends the message from jeremythomerson@gmail.com with a reply-to of jeremy@wickettraining.com
and shows being from jeremy@wickettraining.com (example headers here:)

Headers from @gmail.com email to list:
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:41:11 -0500
From: "Jeremy Thomerson" <jeremy@thomersonfamily.com>
Reply-To: jeremy@thomersonfamily.com
Sender: jeremythomerson@gmail.com
To: dev@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: Setting up Wicket in Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <918312fe0805060634i4913ea18l455029346a4de383@mail.gmail.com>

Headers from @wickettraining.com mail to list:
Message-ID: <3909c0fc0805060618t847330at9768a1ca763bc6d9@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:18:32 -0500
From: "Jeremy Thomerson" <jeremy@wickettraining.com>
To: dev@wicket.apache.org
Subject: Re: Setting up Wicket in Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <918312fe0805052313g7bbe2b9auc388007b0ad2095e@mail.gmail.com>

Message from mail server:
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

    dev@wicket.apache.org

Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: Gmail tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain.
The error that the other server returned was: 552 552 spam score (5.3) exceeded threshold.
We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of
this error. Thanks for your continued support. (state 17)

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Here's an email thread I had with Eelco about it....


I don't know - it's a brand new domain (just registered about a week ago).  I sent the exact
same message, same subject and all, from the @gmail.com address, and it worked.  I tried with
a new message (the training class announcement last night) and a reply (the one on this thread
about "display a string when null"), both failed from this address and succeeded from @gmail.com....

Since you don't think Apache is blocking things with "wicket" in the name, I'd bet it's because
of a new domain, but who knows.  Is there someway I can contact Apache to try to figure it
out?

Thanks!
Jeremy
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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Eelco Hillenius <eelco.hillenius@gmail.com> wrote:

    I have no idea why that is... certainly not because we/ Apache blocked it.

    Any other ideas what might cause your spam score to exceed the limit?

    Eelco

    On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Jeremy Thomerson
    <jeremy@wickettraining.com> wrote:
    > I don't know if this is because the word "wicket" is in my domain name, or
    > what, but I can NOT send a message to users@ or dev@ from this email
    > address.  I have this domain set up with Google apps as my mail provider.
    >
    > Interestingly, I can send it from my @gmail.com address, with GMail's "extra
    > accounts" feature, and it works.  But that's just sending from GMail, using
    > the headers to say it was from this domain:
    >
    > From: "Jeremy Thomerson" <jeremy@wickettraining.com>
    > Reply-To: jeremy@wickettraining.com
    > Sender: jeremythomerson@gmail.com
    >  I figured if you were checking on this domain today with Apache (regarding
    > our conversation last night), then maybe you could look at this, too.
    >
    > Thanks!
    > Jeremy Thomerson
    > http://www.wickettraining.com

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