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From "Jeremy Thomerson (JIRA)" <>
Subject [jira] Created: (INFRA-1602) Can not send email to lists from my new email address
Date Tue, 06 May 2008 13:48:55 GMT
Can not send email to lists from my new email address

                 Key: INFRA-1602
             Project: Infrastructure
          Issue Type: Bug
      Security Level: public (Regular issues)
          Components: Mailing Lists
         Environment: Ubuntu / Firefox / Google Apps Mail
            Reporter: Jeremy Thomerson
            Priority: Minor

I have been subscribed to the wicket mailing lists for several years with my address,
and always able to reply (been subscribed to the apache lists since they were created).  I
set up a new domain called last week, and got it set up with Google Apps
for my email services.  I subscribed to and dev@.  I receive the messages
fine, but I can not reply to them from there, or send a new message from
to the lists.

Interestingly, I can go to my account, and tell it to send from and it goes through fine (using Gmail's other accounts feature).
 That actually sends the message from with a reply-to of
and shows being from (example headers here:)

Headers from email to list:
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:41:11 -0500
From: "Jeremy Thomerson" <>
Subject: Re: Setting up Wicket in Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <>

Headers from mail to list:
Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 08:18:32 -0500
From: "Jeremy Thomerson" <>
Subject: Re: Setting up Wicket in Eclipse
In-Reply-To: <>

Message from mail server:
This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

Technical details of permanent failure:
PERM_FAILURE: Gmail tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain.
The error that the other server returned was: 552 552 spam score (5.3) exceeded threshold.
We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of
this error. Thanks for your continued support. (state 17)

Here's an email thread I had with Eelco about it....

I don't know - it's a brand new domain (just registered about a week ago).  I sent the exact
same message, same subject and all, from the address, and it worked.  I tried with
a new message (the training class announcement last night) and a reply (the one on this thread
about "display a string when null"), both failed from this address and succeeded from

Since you don't think Apache is blocking things with "wicket" in the name, I'd bet it's because
of a new domain, but who knows.  Is there someway I can contact Apache to try to figure it

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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:45 AM, Eelco Hillenius <> wrote:

    I have no idea why that is... certainly not because we/ Apache blocked it.

    Any other ideas what might cause your spam score to exceed the limit?


    On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 8:02 AM, Jeremy Thomerson
    <> wrote:
    > I don't know if this is because the word "wicket" is in my domain name, or
    > what, but I can NOT send a message to users@ or dev@ from this email
    > address.  I have this domain set up with Google apps as my mail provider.
    > Interestingly, I can send it from my address, with GMail's "extra
    > accounts" feature, and it works.  But that's just sending from GMail, using
    > the headers to say it was from this domain:
    > From: "Jeremy Thomerson" <>
    > Reply-To:
    > Sender:
    >  I figured if you were checking on this domain today with Apache (regarding
    > our conversation last night), then maybe you could look at this, too.
    > Thanks!
    > Jeremy Thomerson

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