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From Zachary Yaro <zmy...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Resigning as mentor: what next?
Date Wed, 29 Nov 2017 15:38:36 GMT
If possible, I think it would be better to hold off on the vote until we
know what the new homes for the mailing list, code repo, and documentation
will be, and ensure we can update waveprotocol.org with those details.

Zachary Yaro

On 29 November 2017 at 04:41, Yuri Z <vega113@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, if we have a consensus, I  will send the retirement vote email in a few
> days.
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:35 AM Yuri Z <vega113@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I think I still have admin permissions for waveprotocol.org
> > I can add you as admin in can you want to start working on it.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:53 PM Zachary Yaro <zmyaro@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Just so I understand, what would be the criteria for the project
> rejoining
> >> the Apache Incubator in the future?
> >>
> >> For instance, we have had several people (myself included) comment that
> >> they would become more frequent contributors to the project once the
> >> server
> >> and client were sufficiently decoupled that a JavaScript client could be
> >> worked on separately from the Java GWT client.  Should that happen, and
> >> regular work on the project continue, could the project easily rejoin,
> or
> >> would there be a higher barrier to reentry?
> >>
> >>
> >> And on another note, if the project is retired, what happens to the
> >> documentation and mailing list archives from Apache, and would anything
> be
> >> done to help migrate that elsewhere?
> >>
> >> (On a related note, do we still have access to waveprotocol.org and the
> >> related mailing list?  That would seem to be the logical place to
> migrate
> >> to.)
> >>
> >> Zachary Yaro
> >>
> >> On 27 November 2017 at 14:43, Dustin Pfannenstiel <
> >> dustin.pfannenstiel@nth-estate.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I've set up a repo and organization for the code base on github.
> >> > https://github.com/TimaeusWave/WaveServer
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the years of support and, well, just everything.
> >> >
> >> > DMP
> >> >
> >> > > On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, at 04:46 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> >> > >> The in depth "incubator required stuff" is at
> >> > >> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html for review
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Basically,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> - We have this conversation.  Ensure that there's consensus on
the
> >> > future
> >> > >> of the project.
> >> > >> - Call a vote.  When we call a vote, one of us will send notice
to
> >> > >> incubator.
> >> > >> - Vote again on general@incubator.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I do want to make sure there are two things abundantly clear:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> - Retirement isn't failure.  Wave didn't fail as a project.
> >> > >> - It's better to describe it as "this isn't a good fit as an Apache
> >> > >> project."  Apache projects tend to have at least three people
> >> available
> >> > >> at all times, either making changes, merging in changes, or able
to
> >> cut
> >> > >> releases.
> >> > >
> >> > > What John described above is the process from Apache's side.
> >> > >
> >> > > The code is publicly available under an Apache License. Any of you
> can
> >> > > push your local repo up to GitHub and share it with whoever you
> like,
> >> > > using a name that includes the word "Wave", so that would be a step
> >> > > alongside the more ASF-focussed administrative tasks above.
> >> > >
> >> > > Upayavira
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
>

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