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From Upayavira ...@odoko.co.uk>
Subject Re: Resigning as mentor: what next?
Date Wed, 29 Nov 2017 17:06:44 GMT
I would say that the vote should happen as soon as it can. The ASF won't
put us under undue pressure to move things elsewhere (so long as they
actually happen!)

Upayavira

On Wed, 29 Nov 2017, at 04:01 PM, Yuri Z wrote:
> Ok, let's wait some time. But, repo, jira and documentation will stay -
> as
> read only.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 5:39 PM Zachary Yaro <zmyaro@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > If possible, I think it would be better to hold off on the vote until we
> > know what the new homes for the mailing list, code repo, and documentation
> > will be, and ensure we can update waveprotocol.org with those details.
> >
> > Zachary Yaro
> >
> > On 29 November 2017 at 04:41, Yuri Z <vega113@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > So, if we have a consensus, I  will send the retirement vote email in a
> > few
> > > days.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 11:35 AM Yuri Z <vega113@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yeah, I think I still have admin permissions for waveprotocol.org
> > > > I can add you as admin in can you want to start working on it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:53 PM Zachary Yaro <zmyaro@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Just so I understand, what would be the criteria for the project
> > > rejoining
> > > >> the Apache Incubator in the future?
> > > >>
> > > >> For instance, we have had several people (myself included) comment
> > that
> > > >> they would become more frequent contributors to the project once the
> > > >> server
> > > >> and client were sufficiently decoupled that a JavaScript client could
> > be
> > > >> worked on separately from the Java GWT client.  Should that happen,
> > and
> > > >> regular work on the project continue, could the project easily rejoin,
> > > or
> > > >> would there be a higher barrier to reentry?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> And on another note, if the project is retired, what happens to the
> > > >> documentation and mailing list archives from Apache, and would
> > anything
> > > be
> > > >> done to help migrate that elsewhere?
> > > >>
> > > >> (On a related note, do we still have access to waveprotocol.org and
> > the
> > > >> related mailing list?  That would seem to be the logical place to
> > > migrate
> > > >> to.)
> > > >>
> > > >> Zachary Yaro
> > > >>
> > > >> On 27 November 2017 at 14:43, Dustin Pfannenstiel <
> > > >> dustin.pfannenstiel@nth-estate.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I've set up a repo and organization for the code base on github.
> > > >> > https://github.com/TimaeusWave/WaveServer
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks for the years of support and, well, just everything.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > DMP
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > On Nov 27, 2017, at 11:33 AM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk>
wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Mon, 27 Nov 2017, at 04:46 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> > > >> > >> The in depth "incubator required stuff" is at
> > > >> > >> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
for review
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Basically,
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> - We have this conversation.  Ensure that there's consensus
on
> > the
> > > >> > future
> > > >> > >> of the project.
> > > >> > >> - Call a vote.  When we call a vote, one of us will
send notice
> > to
> > > >> > >> incubator.
> > > >> > >> - Vote again on general@incubator.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I do want to make sure there are two things abundantly
clear:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> - Retirement isn't failure.  Wave didn't fail as a project.
> > > >> > >> - It's better to describe it as "this isn't a good fit
as an
> > Apache
> > > >> > >> project."  Apache projects tend to have at least three
people
> > > >> available
> > > >> > >> at all times, either making changes, merging in changes,
or able
> > to
> > > >> cut
> > > >> > >> releases.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > What John described above is the process from Apache's side.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > The code is publicly available under an Apache License.
Any of you
> > > can
> > > >> > > push your local repo up to GitHub and share it with whoever
you
> > > like,
> > > >> > > using a name that includes the word "Wave", so that would
be a
> > step
> > > >> > > alongside the more ASF-focussed administrative tasks above.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Upayavira
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >

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