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From Evan Hughes <>
Subject Re: Incubation
Date Wed, 07 Oct 2015 13:01:37 GMT
maybe instead of deciding the end instead you and Christian set goals that
must be completed by the next checkpoint aka have x amount of submits, have
x more active contributors to help gain momentum. If the tasks are not
completed sufficiently or dismally fail then sure maybe its for the best.

On 7 October 2015 at 22:44, Evan Hughes <> wrote:

> Well as the video discussion we had earlier this year, the main problem
> has been the complexity. We have been taking steps in this direction with;
> * reducing technical debt (removing updating dependencies), can bee seen
> from patches last week and there has been work in a gradle or sbt build
> system which allows people to understand how the project works together.
> I personally have been looking into giving the website a fresh coat of
> paint in the past couple of weeks (infrastructures docs on building locally
> are eh if not on a mac ;) but did get it working). We have also had the
> addition of the android project for wave.
> Progress might be slow but progress is still being made.
> On 7 October 2015 at 20:54, Upayavira <> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> I need to sign off the Wave report, but find this difficult.
>> The Apache Incubator exists to facilitate projects moving towards being
>> fully fledged ASF projects. Wave has been
>> incubating since 2010, and in that time it has not yet been able to
>> build a community that is likely to sustain itself as an ASF
>> project.
>> It does, therefore, seem to me that it is time for us to retire as a
>> podling, and allow people here to continue in a location more fitting
>> with the current level of effort, without the expectation that it needs
>> to meet some specific set of incubation requirements.
>> Note that all of the source code is Apache Licensed, meaning it can be
>> forked elsewhere - the only discussion required is the name that the
>> relocated project would take.
>> Thoughts?
>> Upayavira

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