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From Upayavira ...@odoko.co.uk>
Subject Re: GSoC 2015 with Apache Wave
Date Fri, 20 Mar 2015 19:07:26 GMT
I think your last question is the most important one - is there someone
here prepared to be a mentor, according to the terms specified by
Google?

If you have read the recent archives of Wave, you’ll see that there
hasn’t been much activity here.

My question is, could Roshan, working on Wave, resolve some of the
technical issues that the project has that prevent it from gaining
additional developers? From my outside perspective, removing, or
separating out the client/server, removing the GWT code/etc could be
steps that could help make the codebase more palatable, and make the
obvious benefits of the Wave protocol more accessible to newcomers via
this codebase.

That would be the perspective I’d want us to take with GSoC - not add a
nice bit on the side for the project, but look to make some fundamental
fixes to the accessibility of the codebase.

Thoughts? Mentor volunteers?

Upayavira

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015, at 04:50 PM, Roshan Lakmal wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I stared to read about Wave architecture and protocol.
> 
> Can I still continue this project for GSoC 2015 or Is there any other
> task
> that I can contribute.
> Is there anyone to mentor me for GSoC 2015?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Roshan.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Pablo Ojanguren <pablojan@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Roshan,
> >
> > I have re-engineered part of the original GWT webclient and port core code
> > to Android [1]. With the app you can connect to a Wave server and operate
> > at Wavelet-level with the original Java code.  A new UI for the
> > conversational model could be added on top of it.
> >
> > As long as original code is Java it mostly works on Android, except
> > specific GWT parts that have been replaced.
> >
> > Pablo
> >
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/Zorbel/swell-android
> > [2]
> > http://p2pvalue.eu/blog/awakening-decentralised-real-time-collaboration
> >
> >
> > 2015-03-19 19:53 GMT+01:00 Ali Lown <ali@lown.me.uk>:
> >
> > > Hi Roshan,
> > >
> > > You will probably be interested to read about the Client-Server
> > > Protocol[1], and its associated protobuf implementation[2], as this is
> > > what currently defines the 'split' between the WebClient and the
> > > Server parts of WIAB.
> > >
> > > As this protocol works entirely with deltas, you to retrieve the
> > > 'content' for display in your client, you will need to understand the
> > > Conversation Model[3], which defines how create the familiar Wave
> > > structure on top of the underlying federateable delta-backed protocol.
> > > You should be able to re-use most of the model code[4] in your client.
> > >
> > > I hope these pointers give you somewhere to start from, feel free to
> > > ask me any further questions whilst navigating the wave codebase.
> > >
> > > Also, whilst not directly applicable - as I started at the federation
> > > end, you may find my 'rave'[5] codebase useful as a way of wrapping
> > > your head around the conversation model.
> > >
> > > Ali
> > >
> > > [1]:
> > >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wave/whitepapers/client-server-protocol/
> > > [2]: src/org/waveprotocol/box/common/comms/waveclient-rpc.proto
> > > [3]:
> > >
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wave/whitepapers/conversation/
> > > [4]: src/org/waveprotocol/wave/model/*
> > > [5]: https://github.com/alown/rave
> > >
> > >
> > > On 19 March 2015 at 18:14, Roshan Lakmal <roshan.2013020@iit.ac.lk>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hi Michael,
> > > >
> > > > I'm interested to working on Native Android Client [1] because I think
> > it
> > > > will help to boost the Wave project again. In my side this will be a
> > > great
> > > > opportunity understand about the Wave Protocol [2].
> > > >
> > > > As a starting point I successfully build the project in my local
> > machine
> > > > [3].
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > >
> > > > [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WAVE-400
> > > > [2] - http://www.waveprotocol.org/protocol
> > > > [3] -
> > > >
> > >
> > https://drive.google.com/a/iit.ac.lk/file/d/0B_tP-jjki90QckNsUHBSbnZDaGs/view
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Roshan Lakmal <
> > > roshan.2013020@iit.ac.lk>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Michael,
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm interested to working on Native Android Client [1] because I think
> > > it
> > > >> will help to boost the Wave project again. In my side this will be
a
> > > great
> > > >> opportunity understand about the Wave Protocol [2].
> > > >>
> > > >> As a starting point I successfully build the project in my local
> > machine
> > > >> [3].
> > > >>
> > > >> cheers,
> > > >>
> > > >> [1] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/WAVE-400
> > > >> [2] - http://www.waveprotocol.org/protocol
> > > >> [3] -
> > > >>
> > > >> [image: Inline image 1]
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Michael MacFadden <
> > > >> michael.macfadden@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Roshan,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> There are plenty of tasks within Wave that could be worked on.
 Do
> > you
> > > >>> have any particular interest?  UI, Backend work, etc.?  I am sure
we
> > > could
> > > >>> find you something.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ~Michael
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 3/19/15, 5:33 AM, "Roshan Lakmal" <roshan.2013020@iit.ac.lk>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> >Hi all,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >I'm Roshan Lakmal, an Undergraduate student from Informatics
> > > Institute of
> > > >>> >Technology - Sri Lanka. Last year I participated Gsoc for
Apache
> > > Software
> > > >>> >Foundation (Apache SIS) [1].
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >For this summer I would like to work with Apache Wave for
GSoC 2015.
> > > Is
> > > >>> >there any suitable task available for me.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >[1] -
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > >
> > http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2014/roshanrox911/5668600916475904
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >Cheers,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >Roshan
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > >
> >

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