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From "Christian Grobmeier" <>
Subject Re: Incubation status
Date Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:48:23 GMT
Hi Bruno,

On 5 Dec 2013, at 16:09, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) wrote:
> Technical point of view:
> A big point for staying at Apache is that we have a big infrastructure
> already in place: issue tracker, code repository, wiki, mailing list,
> possibility to use virtual machines for free, etc.
> However, that's also the problem: being provided and maintained by a
> third party (from the point of view of our project), means there's no
> flexibility as to what VCS we want to use (a read-only mirror at 
> github
> is missing the whole point about git), what communication medium to
> officially use (the dogfooding argument), etc.
> This is what I've had the closest (though scarce) experience with, and
> in my case, I feel it has slowed me down, having to divert potential
> coding time into non-important stuff. I don't know how much time, but
> surely > 0.
> For that, I'd vote in favour of leaving apache.

At least the scm point could be solved: Git has arrived and you can ask 
for a migration to a native
Git repository (like Cordova did)


> All in all, and unless things can be done in a different way while 
> still
> staying at Apache, my opinion is that we would prolly be better off
> outside Apache at this point (in the future maybe it'd be better to go
> back, but I don't see how things could get worse by leaving Apache 
> now).
> On 11/28/13 11:02, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> I believe it makes sense to discuss if the incubator is the right 
>> place.
>> Incubation has a specific goal: forming a team which can do releases
>> and is - in a way - active.
>> I see there is little activity at all. The only person i have seen
>> working on the codebase recently was Ali.
>> He also was the release manager of package which had trouble to
>> receive the necessary votes from its own team.


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