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From Ewan Slater <ewan.sla...@googlemail.com>
Subject Re: Incubation status
Date Thu, 28 Nov 2013 13:46:32 GMT
Hi,

I joined the mailing list a couple of months ago with every intention of
contributing but unfortunately life & work has got in the way.

>From my perspective what would really help would be some kind of developer
"on boarding" process.  Have one of the more established developers reach
out to the noobs like me, why we're interested, what skills we've got, how
much we can contribute and help us identify some tasks that we might be
able to usefully work on and find interesting.

In my case, I'm interested because I'm more convinced than ever that Wave
is exactly what business needs for "social collaboration at work" and I was
gutted when Google dropped it.  My skills are mainly Java, and I could
probably fit in an hour a week.

Cheers,

Ewan


On 28 November 2013 13:32, Thomas Wrobel <darkflame@gmail.com> wrote:

> Speaking as someone unable to contribute code to the client as its too
> heavily tide into the server (which I cant make heads not tails of), how
> will any move effect things? how will it help? wont it just be rearranging
> things again that have little, if anything, to do with getting anything
> actually done?
>
> I am still massively enthusiastic about WFP as a communication method, and
> making a good reference client and server is the way to push it. The web
> needs this.
> However, promotion "in general" will do more harm then good. Promoting to
> potential coders? sure. But the public? Your just repeating Googles mistake
> and pushing something that isnt remotely ready.
>
>
> ~~~
> Thomas & Bertines online review show:
> http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html
> Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :)
>
>
> On 28 November 2013 14:23, Fleeky Flanco <fleeky@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > also if we move it to github, lets finally have discussion for
> development
> > happen on a public wave ;)
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Fleeky Flanco <fleeky@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > i completely agree to move it away from incubation, i think we should
> > move
> > > it out of github make federation easier and then market it on places
> like
> > > reddit.
> > >
> > > my 2 cents as someone who has been happily using this for sometime but
> > sad
> > > at the lack of progress.
> > >
> > > thanks for the devs who do work on it though, wave is awesome and
> already
> > > usefull !
> > >
> > > fleeky
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Frank R. <renfeng.cn@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Evan
> > >>
> > >> You already have it - wave on github. Here,
> > >> https://github.com/apache/wave
> > >>
> > >> Glad to know someone like you is still interested in wave :)
> > >>
> > >> Frank
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Evan Hughes <ehugh1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> As a student I first experienced Google wave back when I was in
> grade 8
> > >>> and
> > >>> at the time couldn't contribute or really take advantage of the
> > system. I
> > >>> followed it to 'wave in a box' and to the incubator but only just
> > >>> learning
> > >>> the programming skills to contribute in development. I was looking
> > >>> forward
> > >>> to seeing development into its original plans like the UI as depicted
> > by
> > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfqThLudfEg. The current incubator's
> > >>> goals
> > >>> and forward development is a bit vague and probably needs a redo
> since
> > >>> situations changed. If you move Apache wave to GitHub the enthusiasts
> > >>> which
> > >>> are pretty much who are left will follow, Wave will still survive.
> > >>>
> > >>> just a newbies opinion.
> > >>>
> > >>> Evan Hughes
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier <
> > >>> grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Hi folks,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > it seems as the first steam with the new people is gone.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I believe it makes sense to discuss if the incubator is the right
> > >>> place.
> > >>> > Incubation has a specific goal: forming a team which can do
> releases
> > >>> and
> > >>> > is - in a way - active.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I see there is little activity at all. The only person i have
seen
> > >>> working
> > >>> > on the codebase recently was Ali.
> > >>> > He also was the release manager of package which had trouble to
> > receive
> > >>> > the necessary votes from its own team.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > My hope was this would change in the past months. But today I
have
> > only
> > >>> > little hope.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Playing the devils advocate I ask you (again):
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Do you folks believe the incubator can ever be completed as it
is
> > now?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > If you believe yes, please let me know why or how we can achieve
> that
> > >>> goal.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Otherwise my recommendation is to move Wave to GitHub and close
the
> > >>> > incubation until the community around Wave has grown.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thoughts?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Christian
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ---
> > >>> > http://www.grobmeier.de
> > >>> > @grobmeier
> > >>> > GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>

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