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From "Frank R." <renfeng...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Incubation status
Date Thu, 28 Nov 2013 14:41:16 GMT
Hi Ewan

I agree with you. Here are my skills.

   - Competent in GWT, i.e. Java + HTML + CSS + JS. The UI of wave is built
   with GWT, right?
   - Basic understanding in XMPP.
   - More on my Google+ profile <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+FrankR/about>

My available hours should be flexible. Maximum, 10 hours.

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Ewan Slater <ewan.slater@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I joined the mailing list a couple of months ago with every intention of
> contributing but unfortunately life & work has got in the way.
>
> From my perspective what would really help would be some kind of developer
> "on boarding" process.  Have one of the more established developers reach
> out to the noobs like me, why we're interested, what skills we've got, how
> much we can contribute and help us identify some tasks that we might be
> able to usefully work on and find interesting.
>
> In my case, I'm interested because I'm more convinced than ever that Wave
> is exactly what business needs for "social collaboration at work" and I was
> gutted when Google dropped it.  My skills are mainly Java, and I could
> probably fit in an hour a week.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ewan
>
>
> On 28 November 2013 13:32, Thomas Wrobel <darkflame@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Speaking as someone unable to contribute code to the client as its too
> > heavily tide into the server (which I cant make heads not tails of), how
> > will any move effect things? how will it help? wont it just be
> rearranging
> > things again that have little, if anything, to do with getting anything
> > actually done?
> >
> > I am still massively enthusiastic about WFP as a communication method,
> and
> > making a good reference client and server is the way to push it. The web
> > needs this.
> > However, promotion "in general" will do more harm then good. Promoting to
> > potential coders? sure. But the public? Your just repeating Googles
> mistake
> > and pushing something that isnt remotely ready.
> >
> >
> > ~~~
> > Thomas & Bertines online review show:
> > http://randomreviewshow.com/index.html
> > Try it! You might even feel ambivalent about it :)
> >
> >
> > On 28 November 2013 14:23, Fleeky Flanco <fleeky@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > also if we move it to github, lets finally have discussion for
> > development
> > > happen on a public wave ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Fleeky Flanco <fleeky@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > i completely agree to move it away from incubation, i think we should
> > > move
> > > > it out of github make federation easier and then market it on places
> > like
> > > > reddit.
> > > >
> > > > my 2 cents as someone who has been happily using this for sometime
> but
> > > sad
> > > > at the lack of progress.
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the devs who do work on it though, wave is awesome and
> > already
> > > > usefull !
> > > >
> > > > fleeky
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Frank R. <renfeng.cn@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Evan
> > > >>
> > > >> You already have it - wave on github. Here,
> > > >> https://github.com/apache/wave
> > > >>
> > > >> Glad to know someone like you is still interested in wave :)
> > > >>
> > > >> Frank
> > > >>
> > > >> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Evan Hughes <ehugh1@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> As a student I first experienced Google wave back when I was in
> > grade 8
> > > >>> and
> > > >>> at the time couldn't contribute or really take advantage of the
> > > system. I
> > > >>> followed it to 'wave in a box' and to the incubator but only just
> > > >>> learning
> > > >>> the programming skills to contribute in development. I was looking
> > > >>> forward
> > > >>> to seeing development into its original plans like the UI as
> depicted
> > > by
> > > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfqThLudfEg. The current
> incubator's
> > > >>> goals
> > > >>> and forward development is a bit vague and probably needs a redo
> > since
> > > >>> situations changed. If you move Apache wave to GitHub the
> enthusiasts
> > > >>> which
> > > >>> are pretty much who are left will follow, Wave will still survive.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> just a newbies opinion.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Evan Hughes
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier <
> > > >>> grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Hi folks,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > it seems as the first steam with the new people is gone.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I believe it makes sense to discuss if the incubator is the
right
> > > >>> place.
> > > >>> > Incubation has a specific goal: forming a team which can
do
> > releases
> > > >>> and
> > > >>> > is - in a way - active.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > I see there is little activity at all. The only person i
have
> seen
> > > >>> working
> > > >>> > on the codebase recently was Ali.
> > > >>> > He also was the release manager of package which had trouble
to
> > > receive
> > > >>> > the necessary votes from its own team.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > My hope was this would change in the past months. But today
I
> have
> > > only
> > > >>> > little hope.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Playing the devils advocate I ask you (again):
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Do you folks believe the incubator can ever be completed
as it is
> > > now?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > If you believe yes, please let me know why or how we can
achieve
> > that
> > > >>> goal.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Otherwise my recommendation is to move Wave to GitHub and
close
> the
> > > >>> > incubation until the community around Wave has grown.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Thoughts?
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Christian
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > ---
> > > >>> > http://www.grobmeier.de
> > > >>> > @grobmeier
> > > >>> > GPG: 0xA5CC90DB
> > > >>> >
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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