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From Michael MacFadden <michael.macfad...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)
Date Fri, 26 Jul 2013 02:02:32 GMT
I am on board with this 100%.  We just always need to temper that by
making sure there is still visibility on these lists, as mentioned.

I would be willing to install a wave server at work that should be
persistent (always on).

On 7/25/13 7:00 PM, "John Blossom" <jblossom@gmail.com> wrote:

>Yes, Joseph, the goal is to use the disciplines of Apache open source
>development to build a platform that will rock the world. The disciplines
>are important, but a sustainable, maintainable platform is the real goal
>that the disciplines facilitate.
>
>All the best,
>
>John Blossom
>
>email: jblossom@gmail.com
>phone: 203.293.8511
>google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Joseph Gentle <josephg@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> To be clear, our principle aim is to make a wave platform. Dogfooding
>> our own software is only a major step if we call it one - I don't
>> think we should move discussion there *yet*, but thats an obvious
>> goal. Git isn't hosted in a subversion repository after all.
>>
>> -J
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Just a small thought to consider during this discussion.
>> >
>> > You are talking about some major changes to the tooling and workflow
>> > typical of Apache communities. Wave is currently in the incubator,
>> > making it a probationary project.
>> >
>> > I would say that the principal aim should be to understand the
>> > principles of the ASF, to demonstrate that understanding, and graduate
>> > from the incubator.
>> >
>> > Having done that, life will be easier when attempting such things as
>> > getting Wave enabled servers, engaging in PR, etc.
>> >
>> > Remember that graduation is based upon how the community operates, and
>> > has nothing to do with the quality, or otherwise, of the code-base.
>> >
>> > And the next big thing is getting that release out - proving that we
>> > understand how to correctly license(etc) our code. (We didn't actually
>> > get to the point of releasing, did we??)
>> >
>> > Upayavira
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Alfredo Abambres wrote:
>> >> @Christian: below are some small considerations of mine about WWers
>>and
>> >> AW
>> >>
>> >> Disclosure: I'm a WWers member and I'm speaking as myself solely, not
>> for
>> >> the network/organization WWer.org.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I like WW being an independent community which creates buzz
>>running by
>> >> > its own rules.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> At this moment, as I see it, "*independent*" is the keyword on all
>>this
>> >> conversation.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > BTW, there is always the possibility to bring the WW community to
>>the
>> >> > ASF too. Given
>> >> > the tools WW is using, it doesn't make sense at the moment. Maybe
>> later
>> >> > when AW
>> >> > is stable and installed at ASF it makes sense to include the WW
>> community
>> >> > as
>> >> > part of the AW community. Something similar happened with Apache
>> >> > OpenOffice.
>> >> > People were running a support forum for OpenOffice and they have
>> >> > joined the project.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your suggestions, it's great to see that our work matter
>>and
>> >> that we can still add lots of value to the future of Wave and Apache
>> >> Wave.
>> >>
>> >> I *personally* don't see WWer.org ever becoming a AW community (but
>> >> things
>> >> change, right?!). That doesn't mean, that the community (people) that
>> now
>> >> represent WWer.org can't form other communities, even within AW. IMO,
>> >> WWers
>> >> members are probably the best prepared ones to assume that role and
>>make
>> >> it
>> >> happen, on a similar approach to your example about Apache OpenOffice
>> >> support forum.
>> >>
>> >> It's great to know that those "doors" exist and may be open when
>>needed.
>> >> Once again thanks.
>>



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