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From John Blossom <jblos...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)
Date Tue, 30 Jul 2013 00:43:51 GMT
Yes, the community needs to buy in to common communication. That said,
everyone's invited to view or participate in Wednesday's Hangout and the
results will be posted here, just as with any other interaction in the
project.

All the best,

John Blossom

email: jblossom@gmail.com
phone: 203.293.8511
google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Michael MacFadden <
michael.macfadden@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am on board with this 100%.  We just always need to temper that by
> making sure there is still visibility on these lists, as mentioned.
>
> I would be willing to install a wave server at work that should be
> persistent (always on).
>
> On 7/25/13 7:00 PM, "John Blossom" <jblossom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Yes, Joseph, the goal is to use the disciplines of Apache open source
> >development to build a platform that will rock the world. The disciplines
> >are important, but a sustainable, maintainable platform is the real goal
> >that the disciplines facilitate.
> >
> >All the best,
> >
> >John Blossom
> >
> >email: jblossom@gmail.com
> >phone: 203.293.8511
> >google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Joseph Gentle <josephg@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> To be clear, our principle aim is to make a wave platform. Dogfooding
> >> our own software is only a major step if we call it one - I don't
> >> think we should move discussion there *yet*, but thats an obvious
> >> goal. Git isn't hosted in a subversion repository after all.
> >>
> >> -J
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > Just a small thought to consider during this discussion.
> >> >
> >> > You are talking about some major changes to the tooling and workflow
> >> > typical of Apache communities. Wave is currently in the incubator,
> >> > making it a probationary project.
> >> >
> >> > I would say that the principal aim should be to understand the
> >> > principles of the ASF, to demonstrate that understanding, and graduate
> >> > from the incubator.
> >> >
> >> > Having done that, life will be easier when attempting such things as
> >> > getting Wave enabled servers, engaging in PR, etc.
> >> >
> >> > Remember that graduation is based upon how the community operates, and
> >> > has nothing to do with the quality, or otherwise, of the code-base.
> >> >
> >> > And the next big thing is getting that release out - proving that we
> >> > understand how to correctly license(etc) our code. (We didn't actually
> >> > get to the point of releasing, did we??)
> >> >
> >> > Upayavira
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Alfredo Abambres wrote:
> >> >> @Christian: below are some small considerations of mine about WWers
> >>and
> >> >> AW
> >> >>
> >> >> Disclosure: I'm a WWers member and I'm speaking as myself solely, not
> >> for
> >> >> the network/organization WWer.org.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> >> >> <grobmeier@gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I like WW being an independent community which creates buzz
> >>running by
> >> >> > its own rules.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> At this moment, as I see it, "*independent*" is the keyword on all
> >>this
> >> >> conversation.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > BTW, there is always the possibility to bring the WW community
to
> >>the
> >> >> > ASF too. Given
> >> >> > the tools WW is using, it doesn't make sense at the moment. Maybe
> >> later
> >> >> > when AW
> >> >> > is stable and installed at ASF it makes sense to include the WW
> >> community
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > part of the AW community. Something similar happened with Apache
> >> >> > OpenOffice.
> >> >> > People were running a support forum for OpenOffice and they have
> >> >> > joined the project.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks for your suggestions, it's great to see that our work matter
> >>and
> >> >> that we can still add lots of value to the future of Wave and Apache
> >> >> Wave.
> >> >>
> >> >> I *personally* don't see WWer.org ever becoming a AW community (but
> >> >> things
> >> >> change, right?!). That doesn't mean, that the community (people) that
> >> now
> >> >> represent WWer.org can't form other communities, even within AW. IMO,
> >> >> WWers
> >> >> members are probably the best prepared ones to assume that role and
> >>make
> >> >> it
> >> >> happen, on a similar approach to your example about Apache OpenOffice
> >> >> support forum.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's great to know that those "doors" exist and may be open when
> >>needed.
> >> >> Once again thanks.
> >>
>
>
>

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