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From Michael MacFadden <>
Subject Re: Future of Apache wave [Was: Re: Advantages of P2P messaging?]
Date Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:16:02 GMT
The general consensus was that XMPP had to much overhead to be practical
in anything theory than highly connected environments for lively
collaboration.  As bandwidth trails off, and/or you don't have persistent
TCP connections (I.e. Mobile devices).  XMPP was killing the ability for
lively collaboration.

On 6/12/13 3:02 PM, "Dave" <> wrote:

>On 12/06/13 14:48, Yuri Z wrote:
>> But without XMPP you would need to define your own discovery protocol.
>Yes. And implement alternatives for a couple of other bits such as
>stream encryption, and anti-spoofing (such as dialback).
>Nothing particularly tricky, although personally I don't think it's
>worthwhile. There's a lot of XMPP specs and implementations that we
>don't use, and our use of XMPP might be unusual, but I don't think it's

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