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From Pratik Paranjape <pratikparanj...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Future of Apache wave [Was: Re: Advantages of P2P messaging?]
Date Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:51:01 GMT
Has anyone actually thought over how it will be possible for something like
wave to be P2P over HTTP? With security and data replication requirements?
I don't see it myself :) Is this a direction many of us are thinking
(technically) about?




On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Pratik Paranjape <pratikparanjape@gmail.com
> wrote:

> XMPP is what making servers federate in current code Bruno. Setting up
> prosody etc...
>
> http://wave-protocol.googlecode.com/hg/spec/federation/wavespec.html
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Bruno Gonzalez (aka stenyak) <
> stenyak@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is XMPP involved in the connection of Mobile devices in wiab or the
>> defunct
>> google wave?
>> Or are you thinking about a future when wave has already become a P2P
>> software?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Michael MacFadden <
>> michael.macfadden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The general consensus was that XMPP had to much overhead to be practical
>> > in anything theory than highly connected environments for lively
>> > collaboration.  As bandwidth trails off, and/or you don't have
>> persistent
>> > TCP connections (I.e. Mobile devices).  XMPP was killing the ability for
>> > lively collaboration.
>> >
>> > On 6/12/13 3:02 PM, "Dave" <wave@glark.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On 12/06/13 14:48, Yuri Z wrote:
>> > >> But without XMPP you would need to define your own discovery
>> protocol.
>> > >
>> > >Yes. And implement alternatives for a couple of other bits such as
>> > >stream encryption, and anti-spoofing (such as dialback).
>> > >
>> > >Nothing particularly tricky, although personally I don't think it's
>> > >worthwhile. There's a lot of XMPP specs and implementations that we
>> > >don't use, and our use of XMPP might be unusual, but I don't think it's
>> > >unreasonable.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Dave
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Saludos,
>>      Bruno González
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Jabber: stenyak AT gmail.com
>> http://www.stenyak.com
>>
>
>

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