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From Willie Slepecki <scpha...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Need help evaluating wave for a project
Date Thu, 04 Apr 2013 08:16:39 GMT
Ok, i see what you are doing now.  Well that fits into what i wanted to do
very well.  I don't want my system to be built around wave, i want wave to
be a component of a much larger system.  In order to do that I will pull
this apart into more fine grained modules and be able to use those modules
at will within the rest of the system.

What about the event bus that was so touted when this was released.  is
that part of the protocol that was released or is that built into the GWT
interface that your team built?

Lastly, is the protocol itself functional?  meaning i intend to fork this
and redevelop a large chunk of it in scala to make other parts of my life
easier.  If i do that at this point in time am i going to find some major
release in 8 months that brings a major system back online that by that
point would be completely incompatible with my code base?

thanks for your help


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:36 AM, Yuri Z <vega113@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> Google did not open the source of original Google Wave, but instead it
> created a stand alone open source implementation, with some core parts  -
> like the OT implementation - being ported as is. But the client was rebuilt
> from the scratch.
> The current implementation saves all the deltas, so it is possible to
> implement the feature to replay the wave state to some earlier condition,
> however it is not implemented yet.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Willie Slepecki <scphantm@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > is the history replay in the old code repo and just hasn't been ported
> yet
> > or did google not release it.
> >
> > I have been looking at the code for several hours now.  its in pretty
> rough
> > shape but good enough to run i guess. I had to fix several issues in the
> > code to get it to compile but it appears to be compiling correctly now.
>  im
> > not very interested in trying to get it to run yet, i just want to see
> how
> > its packaged.
> >
> > but im starting to feel my way around it.  i finally found the gwt
> > interface and have been pulling that apart.  im mainly trying to
> determine
> > if they implemented the event bus for the save on change as a client
> system
> > or a server system.  right now it looks like both.  but i will still play
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Yuri Z <vega113@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi
> > > You can find the source code at
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/wave/source-code.html
> > > The current implementation supports concurrent edition of the document
> by
> > > several users, but there's no implementation for history replay.
> > > You can take a look at demo server: waveinabox.net
> > > Regarding your needs - if you only need to support real time concurrent
> > > editing, then you might also take a look at ShareJS
> > > <http://sharejs.org/>project
> > > or Google Realtime API <https://developers.google.com/drive/realtime/>
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Willie Slepecki <scphantm@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am looking into building a sort of collaborative document
> management
> > > > application.  I remembered wave from the google beta days and I
> > remember
> > > it
> > > > having two features that just astonished me, two features that could
> > > > complete my design for this new CMS system im designing.
> > > >
> > > > the first feature was its concurrent editing of a document.  I
> remember
> > > the
> > > > presenter creating a new wave, indicating that it was a document,
> not a
> > > > message, sharing it with other users, and then like 6 people started
> > > > editing the document in different languages at different locations,
> at
> > > the
> > > > same time.  I remember the presenter talking about the control bus
> that
> > > > made that possible and how it was that single feature that took the
> > > longest
> > > > to get right
> > > >
> > > > The second feature was the history replay.  he was able to pull up a
> > > > document and click some kind of history button and a time bar similar
> > to
> > > > windows media players showed up, he was then able to slide the bar
> all
> > > the
> > > > way to the left to an empty document and replay each and every change
> > > that
> > > > happened to that document one at a time until all modifications
> > > culminated
> > > > into the present state of the document.
> > > >
> > > > My memory is fuzzy so i may have gotten the fine details wrong, but
> the
> > > > essence of what those features were are here.  My question is in the
> > > apache
> > > > version of this thing, what are the status of those two features,
> what
> > > are
> > > > the plans for them, and where would i find them in the old google
> code
> > if
> > > > they havn't been migrated over yet.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > thanks guys
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > You want it fast, cheap, or right.  Pick two!!
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > You want it fast, cheap, or right.  Pick two!!
> >
>



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