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From Upayavira ...@odoko.co.uk>
Subject Re: Board report
Date Wed, 12 Sep 2012 06:15:17 GMT
So, are we discussing? We *need* to start discussing this, as we cannot
stay still in the incubator forever.

Any thoughts?

Note, you don't need to be a committer to be a release manager. Maybe
this is your chance to get more involved.

Upayavira

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012, at 01:28 PM, Upayavira wrote:
> Thanks. Now that we've said to the board that we're discussing what it
> takes to make a release, perhaps we'd better do it :-)
> 
> Is anyone prepared to take on the job of release manager?
> 
> Note, code quality is of no consequence in relation to releasing in the
> incubator. What's needed is to show that licensing/etc is all handled
> correctly. If folks don't want to make a release public, it can be
> produced, vetted by the incubator PMC, and then dropped rather than
> published. Having said that, I consider it to be worth while to release
> an alpha version of the code even if it isn't complete, as it may help
> draw in additional developers to help fill in the missing features.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Upayavira
> 
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012, at 08:21 AM, Yuri Z wrote:
> > I updated the Wiki for Sep 2012 report. Please feel free to add/edit.
> > 
> > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Max pane <yourhty@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Even i would like to involve in Administration,Under michael,
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Jack
> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > IIRC, the June report focused more on development issues than on
> > > > community/graduation issues, and it is the latter that the incubator PMC
> > > > and board are interested in,
> > > >
> > > > Regarding releases, we can release now. Call it alpha-0.0.1. The point
> > > > of releasing is twofold: to show that all licensing issues have been
> > > > resolved (reviews undertaken by yourselves and incubator PMC before
> > > > artifacts are released) and to draw in new developers. Folks like.
> > > > Having a concrete baseline to work against. Also, two open source maxims
> > > > to consider: release early, release often. This encourages us to get our
> > > > stuff out there early, we'll get better feedback that way. Another one
I
> > > > like is "great ideas and bad code builds community". That is, when
> > > > developers see incomplete code, their response is often to help if x it.
> > > > Showing folks the current state of wave code, flaws and all, might
> > > > actually have the eft of bringing more people to the project.
> > > >
> > > > We're I to write a report, it would be something like:
> > > >
> > > > "One new committee added. Discussions (somewhat stalled) on additional
> > > > committers. The next major milestone regarding graduation is to make a
> > > > release. The current codebase is not considered mature enough for a
> > > > useful release, however, the community is discussing what is required
to
> > > > make one, both to better understand the licensing status of our
> > > > codebase, and as a means to draw in additional developers and thus speed
> > > > up development."
> > > >
> > > > Upayavira
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Sep 8, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Ali Lown wrote:
> > > > > Looking at the June report, we can copy-paste most of the contents
for
> > > > > the September report.
> > > > >
> > > > > The items listed as 'most important issues' are still relevant, as
are
> > > > > the 'more developments not yet finished but in progress'.
> > > > >
> > > > > To address 'Ross Gardlers's comments, it is probably worth noting
that
> > > > > I was voted in to the project.
> > > > >
> > > > > The WIAB server hardly seems stable enough yet to produce an actual
> > > > > release (which seems to be the main thing missing for us to graduate
> > > > > from my understanding).
> > > > >
> > > > > @Michael: as project lead (according to Jira), it is probably best
to
> > > > > leave liaising with the board (via the reports) to you.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ali
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8 September 2012 21:39, Upayavira <uv@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > > > Wave folks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We're overdue with our three-monthly incubator/board report,
it was
> > > due
> > > > > > last Wednesday (6 Sept).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do we have a volunteer to write one, and soon?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Remember, it should be focused on what Wave needs to do to graduate,
> > > > > > rather than on technical matters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Upayavira
> > > >
> > >

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