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From "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [wadi-dev] TIMEOUT AGAIN! : Re: WADI - Move to Geronimo Incubator
Date Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:57:50 GMT

On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:37 AM, Bill Dudney wrote:

> Hi Jules,
>
> On Dec 22, 2005, at 7:18 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>
>> Geir,
>>
>> I still do not seem to be receiving mail from wadi- 
>> dev@incubator.apache.org.
>>
>
> I think the magic is in sending email to wadi-dev- 
> subscribe@incubator.apache.org. Bruce was working on getting all of  
> us moved over - how is that going Bruce?

I got in the way of his efforts as I wanted to see us working together.

We should resume now, I think.   If you can get me the sub list, I'll  
be happy to pound that right in directly.

geir

>
>> Please would you add me (jules@coredevelopers.net) and, if  
>> everyone is happy with it, ensure that all other members and  
>> contributors (http://wadi.codehaus.org/team-list.html) are also  
>> subscribed.
>>
>> Once this is done, I would like to suggest that we resume the  
>> process of moving the dev and user lists along with their  
>> archives, over to the incubator.
>>
>> Is everyone on board ?
>>
>
> +1
>
>>
>> Jules
>>
>>
>>
>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent.  The point of my post was to get some of you to stop   
>>> doing, and all of us to start talking.  Once we're all talking,  
>>> we go  back to doing.  Together.
>>>
>>> I won't respond individually to all the posts in this thread,  
>>> but  I've read all of them and thanks all for reading, thinking,  
>>> and  responding.
>>>
>>> Off for coffee...
>>>
>>> geir
>>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2005, at 11:55 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>
>>>> Everything is getting worked out and are making positive strides  
>>>> for
>>>> everything to work out.  I think we are moving in the right  
>>>> direction.
>>>> I have spoken to Jules this evening, and everything is looking  
>>>> like  its
>>>> ironing out fine.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2005, at 7:13 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Geir,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything is in hand. I am talking offline to people who want  
>>>>>> to  talk
>>>>>> to me offline. I am talking online to people who want to talk  
>>>>>> to me
>>>>>> online.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have talked to you offline and believed that we had reached an
>>>>>> understanding.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that the more we talk here together, the better.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I summarized the situation in a mail to both dev lists today and
>>>>>> reiterated my intention to continue the move to the incubator  
>>>>>> as  soon
>>>>>> as the holiday is over.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My problem is that no one answered you and kept on working on it.
>>>>> That's what prompted my email.  Lets do this together.
>>>>>
>>>>> geir
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's just give the thing some time, as I have requested, and  
>>>>>> you  will
>>>>>> see it sort itself out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your interest in the project. It will be  
>>>>>> rewarded as
>>>>>> soon as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, everyone :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jules, people don't want to stop - they are interested in moving
>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everyone else, Jules wants to slow down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see people working together here, I see people  
>>>>>>> ignoring  each
>>>>>>> other.  You can't do this w/o Jules, and Jules can't do this
 
>>>>>>> w/o  the
>>>>>>> rest of you.  I don't really care about why Jules wants to  
>>>>>>> stop,  nor
>>>>>>> why people want to move forward and ignore him, but guys -  
>>>>>>> just fix
>>>>>>> it.  We're all adults.  If the issues are personal, solve  
>>>>>>> them.  If
>>>>>>> they are commercial, leave them at the door.  If they are   
>>>>>>> technical,
>>>>>>> wadi-dev@ please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will stop or I'll recommend that we just toss WADI out of
>>>>>>> incubator because no one wants to work with each other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to be absolutely clear about the status of the move
at the
>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've identified a number of issues which need resolution,
 
>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>> WADI can complete the move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These include the importing of the complete CVS history,
from
>>>>>>>> CodeHaus, the importing of mail archives and a number of
other
>>>>>>>> details. I need to get a grip on the tool set that is  
>>>>>>>> provided by
>>>>>>>> the incubator and satisfy myself that when the move occurs,
 
>>>>>>>> it  will
>>>>>>>> cause minimum disruption to the project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm very loaded at the moment and still expecting an imminent
>>>>>>>> Geronimo-1.0 release to land. The christmas holidays are
also
>>>>>>>> nearly upon us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest that we adjourn until everyone is back from the
  
>>>>>>>> holidays.
>>>>>>>> Someone from WADI will then come up with a plan and we can
  
>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>> the move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does that sound ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle
a   
>>>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>>>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole  
>>>>>>>> operating- system
>>>>>>>> crystallises out around it."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /**********************************
>>>>>>>> * Jules Gosnell
>>>>>>>> * Partner
>>>>>>>> * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *    www.coredevelopers.net
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> * Open Source Training & Support.
>>>>>>>> **********************************/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a  
>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating- 
>>>>>> system
>>>>>> crystallises out around it."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /**********************************
>>>>>> * Jules Gosnell
>>>>>> * Partner
>>>>>> * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *    www.coredevelopers.net
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> * Open Source Training & Support.
>>>>>> **********************************/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Geir Magnusson Jr                                   
>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> "Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of
>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system
>> crystallises out around it."
>>
>> /**********************************
>> * Jules Gosnell
>> * Partner
>> * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>> *
>> *    www.coredevelopers.net
>> *
>> * Open Source Training & Support.
>> **********************************/
>>
>

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org



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