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From Jeff Genender <jgenen...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [wadi-dev] TIMEOUT AGAIN! : Re: WADI - Move to Geronimo Incubator
Date Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:59:42 GMT
Geir,

Please make me a wadi-devs on JIRA also, unless there are any objections.

Thanks,

Jeff

Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> test fur l
> On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
> 
>> Geir,
>>
>> I still do not seem to be receiving mail from
>> wadi-dev@incubator.apache.org.
>>
>> Please would you add me (jules@coredevelopers.net) and,
> 
> You are subscribed, and should be getting this mail.  Please respond if
> you do.  I'm cc-ing you directly so you know to look for it.
> 
> 
>> if everyone is happy with it, ensure that all other members and
>> contributors (http://wadi.codehaus.org/team-list.html) are also
>> subscribed.
> 
> Ok - that's easy for me to do as a mail admin directly.
> 
>>
>> Once this is done, I would like to suggest that we resume the process
>> of moving the dev and user lists along with their archives, over to
>> the incubator.
> 
> If I can get the full subscription list from codehaus, I'll do that re
> teh subs.  As for archives... I think that the best thing we can do is
> have on our wadi website a pointer to both of the archives, the apache
> archives, and the older "legacy" :) archives.
> 
>>
>> Is everyone on board ?
>>
>>
>> Jules
>>
>>
>>
>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent.  The point of my post was to get some of you to stop 
>>> doing, and all of us to start talking.  Once we're all talking, we
>>> go  back to doing.  Together.
>>>
>>> I won't respond individually to all the posts in this thread, but 
>>> I've read all of them and thanks all for reading, thinking, and 
>>> responding.
>>>
>>> Off for coffee...
>>>
>>> geir
>>>
>>> On Dec 21, 2005, at 11:55 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>
>>>> Everything is getting worked out and are making positive strides for
>>>> everything to work out.  I think we are moving in the right direction.
>>>> I have spoken to Jules this evening, and everything is looking like 
>>>> its
>>>> ironing out fine.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 21, 2005, at 7:13 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Geir,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Everything is in hand. I am talking offline to people who want to

>>>>>> talk
>>>>>> to me offline. I am talking online to people who want to talk to
me
>>>>>> online.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have talked to you offline and believed that we had reached an
>>>>>> understanding.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that the more we talk here together, the better.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I summarized the situation in a mail to both dev lists today and
>>>>>> reiterated my intention to continue the move to the incubator as

>>>>>> soon
>>>>>> as the holiday is over.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My problem is that no one answered you and kept on working on it.
>>>>> That's what prompted my email.  Lets do this together.
>>>>>
>>>>> geir
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let's just give the thing some time, as I have requested, and you

>>>>>> will
>>>>>> see it sort itself out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your interest in the project. It will be rewarded as
>>>>>> soon as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey, everyone :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jules, people don't want to stop - they are interested in moving
>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everyone else, Jules wants to slow down.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't see people working together here, I see people ignoring

>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>> other.  You can't do this w/o Jules, and Jules can't do this
w/o 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> rest of you.  I don't really care about why Jules wants to stop,

>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>> why people want to move forward and ignore him, but guys - just
fix
>>>>>>> it.  We're all adults.  If the issues are personal, solve them.
 If
>>>>>>> they are commercial, leave them at the door.  If they are 
>>>>>>> technical,
>>>>>>> wadi-dev@ please.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will stop or I'll recommend that we just toss WADI out of
>>>>>>> incubator because no one wants to work with each other.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just to be absolutely clear about the status of the move
at the
>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've identified a number of issues which need resolution,
before
>>>>>>>> WADI can complete the move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These include the importing of the complete CVS history,
from
>>>>>>>> CodeHaus, the importing of mail archives and a number of
other
>>>>>>>> details. I need to get a grip on the tool set that is provided
by
>>>>>>>> the incubator and satisfy myself that when the move occurs,
it 
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> cause minimum disruption to the project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm very loaded at the moment and still expecting an imminent
>>>>>>>> Geronimo-1.0 release to land. The christmas holidays are
also
>>>>>>>> nearly upon us.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suggest that we adjourn until everyone is back from the

>>>>>>>> holidays.
>>>>>>>> Someone from WADI will then come up with a plan and we can

>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>> the move.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does that sound ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle
a 
>>>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>>>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-
>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>> crystallises out around it."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> /**********************************
>>>>>>>> * Jules Gosnell
>>>>>>>> * Partner
>>>>>>>> * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> *    www.coredevelopers.net
>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>> * Open Source Training & Support.
>>>>>>>> **********************************/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece
of
>>>>>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system
>>>>>> crystallises out around it."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /**********************************
>>>>>> * Jules Gosnell
>>>>>> * Partner
>>>>>> * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *    www.coredevelopers.net
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> * Open Source Training & Support.
>>>>>> **********************************/
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of
>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system
>> crystallises out around it."
>>
>> /**********************************
>> * Jules Gosnell
>> * Partner
>> * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>> *
>> *    www.coredevelopers.net
>> *
>> * Open Source Training & Support.
>> **********************************/
>>
> 
> --Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
> 

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