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From Geir Magnusson Jr <g...@4quarters.com>
Subject Re: [wadi-dev] TIMEOUT AGAIN! : Re: WADI - Move to Geronimo Incubator
Date Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:46:48 GMT
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On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:59 AM, Jeff Genender wrote:

> Geir,
>
> Please make me a wadi-devs on JIRA also, unless there are any  
> objections.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>> test fur l
>> On Dec 22, 2005, at 9:18 AM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>
>>> Geir,
>>>
>>> I still do not seem to be receiving mail from
>>> wadi-dev@incubator.apache.org.
>>>
>>> Please would you add me (jules@coredevelopers.net) and,
>>
>> You are subscribed, and should be getting this mail.  Please  
>> respond if
>> you do.  I'm cc-ing you directly so you know to look for it.
>>
>>
>>> if everyone is happy with it, ensure that all other members and
>>> contributors (http://wadi.codehaus.org/team-list.html) are also
>>> subscribed.
>>
>> Ok - that's easy for me to do as a mail admin directly.
>>
>>>
>>> Once this is done, I would like to suggest that we resume the  
>>> process
>>> of moving the dev and user lists along with their archives, over to
>>> the incubator.
>>
>> If I can get the full subscription list from codehaus, I'll do  
>> that re
>> teh subs.  As for archives... I think that the best thing we can  
>> do is
>> have on our wadi website a pointer to both of the archives, the  
>> apache
>> archives, and the older "legacy" :) archives.
>>
>>>
>>> Is everyone on board ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jules
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Excellent.  The point of my post was to get some of you to stop
>>>> doing, and all of us to start talking.  Once we're all talking, we
>>>> go  back to doing.  Together.
>>>>
>>>> I won't respond individually to all the posts in this thread, but
>>>> I've read all of them and thanks all for reading, thinking, and
>>>> responding.
>>>>
>>>> Off for coffee...
>>>>
>>>> geir
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 21, 2005, at 11:55 PM, Jeff Genender wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Everything is getting worked out and are making positive  
>>>>> strides for
>>>>> everything to work out.  I think we are moving in the right  
>>>>> direction.
>>>>> I have spoken to Jules this evening, and everything is looking  
>>>>> like
>>>>> its
>>>>> ironing out fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2005, at 7:13 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geir,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Everything is in hand. I am talking offline to people who  
>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>> to me offline. I am talking online to people who want to talk
 
>>>>>>> to me
>>>>>>> online.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have talked to you offline and believed that we had reached
an
>>>>>>> understanding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that the more we talk here together, the better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I summarized the situation in a mail to both dev lists today
and
>>>>>>> reiterated my intention to continue the move to the incubator
as
>>>>>>> soon
>>>>>>> as the holiday is over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My problem is that no one answered you and kept on working on it.
>>>>>> That's what prompted my email.  Lets do this together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's just give the thing some time, as I have requested, and
 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> see it sort itself out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your interest in the project. It will be  
>>>>>>> rewarded as
>>>>>>> soon as possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey, everyone :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jules, people don't want to stop - they are interested in
 
>>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>>> forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everyone else, Jules wants to slow down.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't see people working together here, I see people ignoring
>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>> other.  You can't do this w/o Jules, and Jules can't do this
 
>>>>>>>> w/o
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> rest of you.  I don't really care about why Jules wants to
 
>>>>>>>> stop,
>>>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>>> why people want to move forward and ignore him, but guys
-  
>>>>>>>> just fix
>>>>>>>> it.  We're all adults.  If the issues are personal, solve
 
>>>>>>>> them.  If
>>>>>>>> they are commercial, leave them at the door.  If they are
>>>>>>>> technical,
>>>>>>>> wadi-dev@ please.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This will stop or I'll recommend that we just toss WADI out
of
>>>>>>>> incubator because no one wants to work with each other.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> geir
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Dec 21, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Jules Gosnell wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to be absolutely clear about the status of the move
at  
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> moment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've identified a number of issues which need resolution,
 
>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>>>> WADI can complete the move.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These include the importing of the complete CVS history,
from
>>>>>>>>> CodeHaus, the importing of mail archives and a number
of other
>>>>>>>>> details. I need to get a grip on the tool set that is
 
>>>>>>>>> provided by
>>>>>>>>> the incubator and satisfy myself that when the move occurs,
it
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> cause minimum disruption to the project.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm very loaded at the moment and still expecting an
imminent
>>>>>>>>> Geronimo-1.0 release to land. The christmas holidays
are also
>>>>>>>>> nearly upon us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I suggest that we adjourn until everyone is back from
the
>>>>>>>>> holidays.
>>>>>>>>> Someone from WADI will then come up with a plan and we
can
>>>>>>>>> complete
>>>>>>>>> the move.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How does that sound ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jules
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle
a
>>>>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>>>>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-
>>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>>> crystallises out around it."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> /**********************************
>>>>>>>>> * Jules Gosnell
>>>>>>>>> * Partner
>>>>>>>>> * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *    www.coredevelopers.net
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> * Open Source Training & Support.
>>>>>>>>> **********************************/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a  
>>>>>>> piece of
>>>>>>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-

>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>> crystallises out around it."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /**********************************
>>>>>>> * Jules Gosnell
>>>>>>> * Partner
>>>>>>> * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *    www.coredevelopers.net
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> * Open Source Training & Support.
>>>>>>> **********************************/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Geir Magnusson Jr                                   
>>>>>> +1-203-665-6437
>>>>>> geirm@apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --"Open Source is a self-assembling organism. You dangle a piece of
>>> string into a super-saturated solution and a whole operating-system
>>> crystallises out around it."
>>>
>>> /**********************************
>>> * Jules Gosnell
>>> * Partner
>>> * Core Developers Network (Europe)
>>> *
>>> *    www.coredevelopers.net
>>> *
>>> * Open Source Training & Support.
>>> **********************************/
>>>
>>
>> --Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>

-- 
Geir Magnusson Jr                                  +1-203-665-6437
geir@optonline.net



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