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From Martin Sebor <>
Subject Re: New committers?
Date Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:04:21 GMT
On 09/02/2012 08:42 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 12:02 AM, Martin Sebor<>  wrote:
>> On 08/31/2012 02:38 PM, Liviu Nicoara wrote:
>>> My input below.
>>> On 08/31/12 09:42, Wojciech Meyer wrote:
>>>> The two significant ones (as far as I can understand):
>>>> - as I heard from Christopher Bergström that it's hard to push the
>>>>    stdcxx to FreeBSD ports repository (I can understand it and that
>>>>    sounds pretty bad, if that's the case then the board should consider
>>>>    re-licensing as advised; I agree in general it's a hard decision for
>>>>    the board, but imagine the project would benefit, IANAL tho)
>>> Christopher's wishes and goals may be different from others'. I do not
>>> believe he has ulterior motives that would be detrimental to the rest of
>>> us but AFAICT he has not made a compelling argument. Even with one, it
>>> stretches the imagination what could possibly convince Apache to give up
>>> on STDCXX ownership.
>> Just a point of clarity: the ASF doesn't "own" stdcxx. They license
>> it from Rogue Wave which still has the copyright. (Not that anyone
>> there realizes it or would know what to do with it if they did.)
>> IIUC, that's also why they can't relicense it under different terms.
> FWIW, the ASF never requires copyright assignment... Just a copyright
> license to "reproduce, prepare derivative works of, publicly display,
> publicly perform, sublicense, and distribute Your Contributions and
> such derivative works."
> Also, there is nothing in our bylaws or in the various license
> agreements that *exclude* the ASF ever releasing code not under
> the ALv2 (how could it? After all, that would prevent us from
> ever being able to move to ALv3). Again, we could, if we wanted
> to (which we never will, btw) actually make our code under the
> GPLv2...

So what would it take to change the license to BSD as Christopher
asks (IIUC)?


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