Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-stdcxx-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 89122 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2007 04:40:59 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 23 Jun 2007 04:40:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 46695 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jun 2007 04:41:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-stdcxx-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46684 invoked by uid 500); 23 Jun 2007 04:41:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact stdcxx-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: stdcxx-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list stdcxx-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46658 invoked by uid 99); 23 Jun 2007 04:41:02 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:41:02 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: domain of msebor@gmail.com designates 209.85.146.178 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.146.178] (HELO wa-out-1112.google.com) (209.85.146.178) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:40:58 -0700 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id n4so2320173wag for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:40:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=CpnCCx3qX1l8b35JFOaVVCCSpDKDk+Dj3UylDm48yfxbPG6+uOnQgBF3BRD93Mhditfv+SPTPC3+/Rm+KZjbYuQTdLKqLkO4f6i2MJ2BYUK7eNcsLH0NDoj+Zn3UOYVgAG3FKWYkws6YoWNU6w568qNZ/DK3KcO/GyaZ+4dl2vk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:organization:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=VIWlFTsjx45vhHID2ae9FH05TKy0pBpMDxhBBL83HkWPAa6EEt1LZl3+DO5LtYxRkkrPKQ78Hp0xFY2gg6TATA3UDRgrY9jf2jBWVB3RFBpzGSosmDyugC57UEb0c/aTR6kW7iOXkAk626+56y52iCROcpRpr3igV7vqBqX+iYg= Received: by 10.115.90.1 with SMTP id s1mr3574090wal.1182573637775; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:40:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.104? ( [71.229.200.170]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n32sm4226831wag.2007.06.22.21.40.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <467CA440.3090602@roguewave.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:40:32 -0600 From: Martin Sebor Organization: Rogue Wave Software User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.0.12) Gecko/20070531 Fedora/1.0.9-1.fc6 pango-text SeaMonkey/1.0.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stdcxx-dev@incubator.apache.org CC: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: STDCXX progress to graduation References: <467B1684.6010009@rowe-clan.net> In-Reply-To: <467B1684.6010009@rowe-clan.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Martin Sebor X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: [...] >>> things are as quiet as expected for a mature implementation of >>> a reference standard. >> Any concern that because of the maturity, it could stagnate and lose community? > > Not at this time. Because it is widely deployed, there will be a long > term demand. Because it's transparent to the developer, and in debugging > their apps they can drill right into flaws within stdcxx, I suspect we > will see bug feedback folks turn patchers turn contributors turn project > members for years, as long as C++ is a widely adopted language. I have little to add to Bill and Justin's encouraging comments, except that the C++ standard is currently being revised and a new, significantly extended one is close to being completed, and is expected to be ratified in the 2010 timeframe. Many new features have already been added to the standard and more still are in the works. We are looking forward to fully implementing all of the new components after the upcoming 4.2 release of stdcxx. We expect to attract even more users to the project with this milestone release, and to grow the community of contributors in the coming months to help us with the implementation of the many new features. Graduating from the incubator will be a crucial step in reaching these goals and ensuring an wider adoption of the project. Martin