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From Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
Subject Re: draft of ASF board report
Date Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:45:26 GMT
Correct, I was referring to the recent thread about shutting down the
s4 podling. In the incubator that's called "retirement"
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html

Glad to see folks stepping up!

Patrick

On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Flavio Junqueira <fpjunqueira@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I think Pat is referring to the discussion we have had when I proposed to retire the
project. I didn't use this exact word, but it is essentially what I meant. You and a few others
stepped up and said that you wouldn't like to see it retiring and would like to give it a
shot at helping with building a community, contributing patches, and just increasing activity
in general.
>
> Does it make sense?
>
> -Flavio
>
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Oleg Tikhonov <oleg@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> the item 3 - deleted completely.
>>
>> Can you shed more light on "retirement" discussion. I am new here and
>> probably missed it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Patrick Hunt <phunt@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I would remove 3 entirely - that's not needed for graduation.
>>>
>>> You should also mention the result of the "retirement" discussion -
>>> give the ipmc/board some insight: that folks stepped up and are
>>> pushing forward, i.e. no retirement at this point.
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Oleg Tikhonov <oleg@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> Thanks !
>>>>
>>>> Added Patrick's & Flavio's comments.
>>>> http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is there anything else?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Oleg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM, FPJ <fpjunqueira@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When you say put out more releases, do you mean more in number or having
>>>>> releases more frequently? S4 has had two releases already, but the
>>>>> frequency
>>>>> of releases has been low in the past. I think activity is a real issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your point 2 is a good summary of what I've been trying to say. We are
>>> on
>>>>> the same page there.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Flavio
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:phunt@apache.org]
>>>>>> Sent: 03 September 2013 06:42
>>>>>> To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a few comments:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) I don't think the issues listed in "Three most important issues
to
>>>>> address in
>>>>>> the move towards graduation" are apropos. What you want to list here
>>> is
>>>>>> things blocking graduation. IMO this is two things; 1) put out more
>>>>> releases,
>>>>>> and 2) build community (of which 2 is more important at this point)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) I think you should also include mention of a PPMC member requesting
>>>>>> that the podling be retired - and the results of that discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Patrick
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Matthieu Morel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the effort! That looks good to me, except maybe
that in
>>> my
>>>>>>>> view the real issue about graduation is the activity. Adding
more
>>>>>>>> requirements will only raise up the bar for graduation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think the IPMC would expect to see a more active and
>>> self-governing
>>>>>>> project before voting for graduation, whether or not the podling
>>> puts
>>>>>>> that down as an issue. (See:
>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jzb
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier
>>>>>>> jzb@zonker.net
>>>>>>> Twitter: @jzb
>>>>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>

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