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From Oleg Tikhonov <o...@apache.org>
Subject Re: draft of ASF board report
Date Mon, 02 Sep 2013 13:08:13 GMT
Summing up. Just added Joe's & Flavio's suggestions & thoughts.

Please find the provided link: http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8.

Your comments are still valuable!




On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM, FPJ <fpjunqueira@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure we are on the same page. We have had a couple of threads now
> about graduation and the threads started with someone from the IPMC asking
> us about it. Given that we haven't been able to conclude what to do with
> respect to graduation (that's my conclusion out of the message threads), I
> would suggest we explain it in the report. To perhaps rephrase what I
> already  said, activity has been low but we got some developers standing up
> and stating they would keep the project going. Given that there is some
> revived interest, I suggest we keep the project alive and see how it
> evolves during the next 3 months. I think all this should figure in the
> report.
>
> I'm also fine to have Joe as a mentor if he is interested. Do we need to
> have a PPMC vote for this?
>
> About the status page, it is our page. We should look into updating it. I
> remember having some discussion about updating it, but I can't recall what
> happened.
>
> About the podling name, we have created a jira a while back and it is not
> resolved yet:
>
>         https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-10
>
> About a new committer, we voted Daniel Gómez Ferro a committer. It is in
> one of the quarterly reports I have sent previously.
>
> -Flavio
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: olegtikhonov@gmail.com [mailto:olegtikhonov@gmail.com] On Behalf
> > Of Oleg Tikhonov
> > Sent: 02 September 2013 06:05
> > To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report
> >
> > Thanks, valuable feedbacks are, indeed.
> >
> > @Flavio - agree with Joe, it's not about graduation, it's about
> inactivity.
> > Fortunately, the S4 community was & is biting & kicking.
> > On the other hand, it's my personal opinion, any "project in incubator"
> > must tend to be TLP.
> >
> > About mentoring - Good mentor is worth for the project, and for sure
> > he/she should be responsive. If Joe would like to step up as a mentor -
> so be
> > it, IMO.
> >
> > @Joe
> > "Note that the community has also been failing to keep the incubator
> status
> > page up to date. The last status report listed was from 2012, but there
> have
> > been status reports since. IIRC, someone has been added as a committer,
> > but is not listed yet under project info. The last release
> > (0.6.0) is not listed on the incubator status page either."
> >
> > Who can fix that? Or how to fix it?
> >
> > >Has the podling name search been completed?
> > May be open the JIRA for the issue? Definitely we should accomplish the
> task
> > ASAP.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Oleg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Sep 1, 2013, at 03:50 PM, Flavio Junqueira wrote:
> > > > Thanks for putting it together, Oleg. Here are some suggestions for
> > > > two parts of the proposal:
> > > >
> > > > - Any issued the IPMC should be aware of: I would include two things
> > > > here. First, we have been asked about graduation. We haven't been
> > > > able to conclude whether we should graduate or not. One particular
> > > > problem we have been having is with growth of the community. I would
> > > > say that in a recent e-mail thread, we have received very positive
> > > > feedback from some developers, so we would like to remain in
> > > > incubation for a little longer so that we can get some traction.
> > > > Second, one of our mentors hasn't been responsive, so we need to find
> > another mentor.
> > >
> > > I think the primary issue here is not graduation, per se, it's the
> > > inactivity. It doesn't seem to me there's much going on in the S4
> > > community. In March, the dev mailing list was reasonably busy (132
> > > messages) and then that's dwindled to less than 35 per month since
> > > March.
> > >
> > > There was no activity in git on August at all. A little in July, more
> > > in June.
> > >
> > > *If* there's enough interest on the community side to keep the project
> > > going, then I'd be happy to step up as a mentor. Right now, I'm very
> > > concerned that the project lacks a diverse/large enough community to
> > > remain healthy.
> > >
> > > Note that the community has also been failing to keep the incubator
> > > status page up to date. The last status report listed was from 2012,
> > > but there have been status reports since. IIRC, someone has been added
> > > as a committer, but is not listed yet under project info. The last
> > > release
> > > (0.6.0) is not listed on the incubator status page either.
> > >
> > > Also: Has the podling name search been completed? I saw that
> > > referenced on another report, and it's still listed as needed on the
> status
> > page.
> > > This needs to be completed if it hasn't been.
> > >
> > > > - Has the community developed since the last report? I would say
> > > > that we have been seeing some traffic on the mailing lists, mostly
> > > > questions about how to use S4, but the code contributions have been
> > fairly minimal.
> > >
> > > It looks to me like the community has actually shrunk since the last
> > > report, but I could be missing something.
> > >
> > > Would like to see S4 turn this around and grow its community and get
> > > ready to graduate, but I think graduation would be premature at this
> > > point.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > jzb
> > > --
> > > Joe Brockmeier
> > > jzb@zonker.net
> > > Twitter: @jzb
> > > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> > >
>
>

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