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From Oleg Tikhonov <o...@apache.org>
Subject Re: draft of ASF board report
Date Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:03:29 GMT
Wow! Well done. Thanks guys. I added our suggestions, thoughts & intentions
to the report. If you don't mind also put Kurtt Lin such great words in it.






On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo <
renatoj.marroquin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Great work Kurtt Lin! Keep new features coming!
>
>
> Renato M.
>
>
> 2013/9/3 Kurtt Lin <kurtt.lin@gmail.com>
>
> > Hi, Flavio, Matthieu, Patrick, and all
> >
> > Cheer up, guys. I'm seeing opportunities in this stream processing field
> as
> > well as in S4. What I haven’t mentioned is that, S4 had found successful
> > applications in our research group even back in the 0.3.0 days and now in
> > our start-up. We have built scalable real time search over microblogs
> with
> > some S4 features enhanced (the paper appears in 2013’s EDBT proceedings,
> > link is
> > http://www.edbt.org/Proceedings/2013-Genova/papers/edbt/a31-lin.pdf);
> > we also built a platform on top of S4 for detecting and analyzing
> real-time
> > traffic conditions, processing over hundreds of millions of records every
> > day.
> >
> > Now we plan to contribute to the community. I personally have created and
> > responded to some JIRAs, but I would like to do more. Actually, I am
> > ongoing proposing a design documentation of integrating S4 with Helix
> along
> > the roadmap; this would help enhancing the elasticity feature for S4.
> >
> > So, I suppose we could put the "retirement" discussion aside? Give us the
> > new comers some time perhaps a couple of months to see what we can do to
> > make the community healthier. Of course, some of us are new; we shall ask
> > for your help and guidance occasionally, please be responsive (as what
> you
> > are doing now), :)
> >
> > You all have done brilliant jobs! :)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Patrick Hunt <phunt@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Correct, I was referring to the rece
> > >
> > > nt thread about shutting down the
> > > s4 podling. In the incubator that's called "retirement"
> > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
> > >
> > > Glad to see folks stepping up!
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Flavio Junqueira <
> fpjunqueira@yahoo.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I think Pat is referring to the discussion we have had when I
> proposed
> > > to retire the project. I didn't use this exact word, but it is
> > essentially
> > > what I meant. You and a few others stepped up and said that you
> wouldn't
> > > like to see it retiring and would like to give it a shot at helping
> with
> > > building a community, contributing patches, and just increasing
> activity
> > in
> > > general.
> > > >
> > > > Does it make sense?
> > > >
> > > > -Flavio
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Oleg Tikhonov <oleg@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> the item 3 - deleted completely.
> > > >>
> > > >> Can you shed more light on "retirement" discussion. I am new here
> and
> > > >> probably missed it.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Patrick Hunt <phunt@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I would remove 3 entirely - that's not needed for graduation.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You should also mention the result of the "retirement" discussion
-
> > > >>> give the ipmc/board some insight: that folks stepped up and are
> > > >>> pushing forward, i.e. no retirement at this point.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Patrick
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Oleg Tikhonov <oleg@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>> Thanks !
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Added Patrick's & Flavio's comments.
> > > >>>> http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Is there anything else?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Cheers,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Oleg
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM, FPJ <fpjunqueira@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> When you say put out more releases, do you mean more in
number or
> > > having
> > > >>>>> releases more frequently? S4 has had two releases already,
but
> the
> > > >>>>> frequency
> > > >>>>> of releases has been low in the past. I think activity
is a real
> > > issue.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Your point 2 is a good summary of what I've been trying
to say.
> We
> > > are
> > > >>> on
> > > >>>>> the same page there.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> -Flavio
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>>>>> From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:phunt@apache.org]
> > > >>>>>> Sent: 03 September 2013 06:42
> > > >>>>>> To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> I have a few comments:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 1) I don't think the issues listed in "Three most
important
> issues
> > > to
> > > >>>>> address in
> > > >>>>>> the move towards graduation" are apropos. What you
want to list
> > here
> > > >>> is
> > > >>>>>> things blocking graduation. IMO this is two things;
1) put out
> > more
> > > >>>>> releases,
> > > >>>>>> and 2) build community (of which 2 is more important
at this
> > point)
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> 2) I think you should also include mention of a PPMC
member
> > > requesting
> > > >>>>>> that the podling be retired - and the results of that
> discussion.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Patrick
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Matthieu Morel
wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for the effort! That looks good to
me, except maybe
> that
> > in
> > > >>> my
> > > >>>>>>>> view the real issue about graduation is the
activity. Adding
> > more
> > > >>>>>>>> requirements will only raise up the bar for
graduation.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> I think the IPMC would expect to see a more active
and
> > > >>> self-governing
> > > >>>>>>> project before voting for graduation, whether
or not the
> podling
> > > >>> puts
> > > >>>>>>> that down as an issue. (See:
> > > >>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community)
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Best,
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> jzb
> > > >>>>>>> --
> > > >>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier
> > > >>>>>>> jzb@zonker.net
> > > >>>>>>> Twitter: @jzb
> > > >>>>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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