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From "FPJ" <fpjunque...@yahoo.com>
Subject RE: draft of ASF board report
Date Wed, 04 Sep 2013 07:42:06 GMT
Agreed, that's very cool. Hey, Kurtt, you're not using 0.3 any longer, you? Hopefully you have
migrated to a newer version. 

I suggest we start a PoweredBy page with this use case.

-Flavio

> -----Original Message-----
> From: olegtikhonov@gmail.com [mailto:olegtikhonov@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Oleg Tikhonov
> Sent: 04 September 2013 08:03
> To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report
> 
> Wow! Well done. Thanks guys. I added our suggestions, thoughts &
> intentions to the report. If you don't mind also put Kurtt Lin such great words
> in it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Renato Marroquín Mogrovejo <
> renatoj.marroquin@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Great work Kurtt Lin! Keep new features coming!
> >
> >
> > Renato M.
> >
> >
> > 2013/9/3 Kurtt Lin <kurtt.lin@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Hi, Flavio, Matthieu, Patrick, and all
> > >
> > > Cheer up, guys. I'm seeing opportunities in this stream processing
> > > field
> > as
> > > well as in S4. What I haven’t mentioned is that, S4 had found
> > > successful applications in our research group even back in the 0.3.0
> > > days and now in our start-up. We have built scalable real time
> > > search over microblogs
> > with
> > > some S4 features enhanced (the paper appears in 2013’s EDBT
> > > proceedings, link is
> > > http://www.edbt.org/Proceedings/2013-Genova/papers/edbt/a31-
> lin.pdf)
> > > ; we also built a platform on top of S4 for detecting and analyzing
> > real-time
> > > traffic conditions, processing over hundreds of millions of records
> > > every day.
> > >
> > > Now we plan to contribute to the community. I personally have
> > > created and responded to some JIRAs, but I would like to do more.
> > > Actually, I am ongoing proposing a design documentation of
> > > integrating S4 with Helix
> > along
> > > the roadmap; this would help enhancing the elasticity feature for S4.
> > >
> > > So, I suppose we could put the "retirement" discussion aside? Give
> > > us the new comers some time perhaps a couple of months to see what
> > > we can do to make the community healthier. Of course, some of us are
> > > new; we shall ask for your help and guidance occasionally, please be
> > > responsive (as what
> > you
> > > are doing now), :)
> > >
> > > You all have done brilliant jobs! :)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Patrick Hunt <phunt@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Correct, I was referring to the rece
> > > >
> > > > nt thread about shutting down the
> > > > s4 podling. In the incubator that's called "retirement"
> > > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/retirement.html
> > > >
> > > > Glad to see folks stepping up!
> > > >
> > > > Patrick
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Flavio Junqueira <
> > fpjunqueira@yahoo.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I think Pat is referring to the discussion we have had when I
> > proposed
> > > > to retire the project. I didn't use this exact word, but it is
> > > essentially
> > > > what I meant. You and a few others stepped up and said that you
> > wouldn't
> > > > like to see it retiring and would like to give it a shot at
> > > > helping
> > with
> > > > building a community, contributing patches, and just increasing
> > activity
> > > in
> > > > general.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does it make sense?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Flavio
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Oleg Tikhonov <oleg@apache.org>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> the item 3 - deleted completely.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Can you shed more light on "retirement" discussion. I am new
> > > > >> here
> > and
> > > > >> probably missed it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Patrick Hunt <phunt@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I would remove 3 entirely - that's not needed for graduation.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> You should also mention the result of the "retirement"
> > > > >>> discussion - give the ipmc/board some insight: that folks
> > > > >>> stepped up and are pushing forward, i.e. no retirement at
this
> point.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Patrick
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 7:57 AM, Oleg Tikhonov
> > > > >>> <oleg@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>>> Thanks !
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Added Patrick's & Flavio's comments.
> > > > >>>> http://pastebin.com/M83sB2z8
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Is there anything else?
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Cheers,
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Oleg
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM, FPJ <fpjunqueira@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>>> When you say put out more releases, do you mean more
in
> > > > >>>>> number or
> > > > having
> > > > >>>>> releases more frequently? S4 has had two releases
already,
> > > > >>>>> but
> > the
> > > > >>>>> frequency
> > > > >>>>> of releases has been low in the past. I think activity
is a
> > > > >>>>> real
> > > > issue.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Your point 2 is a good summary of what I've been
trying to say.
> > We
> > > > are
> > > > >>> on
> > > > >>>>> the same page there.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> -Flavio
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>>>>> From: Patrick Hunt [mailto:phunt@apache.org]
> > > > >>>>>> Sent: 03 September 2013 06:42
> > > > >>>>>> To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > > >>>>>> Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> I have a few comments:
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> 1) I don't think the issues listed in "Three
most important
> > issues
> > > > to
> > > > >>>>> address in
> > > > >>>>>> the move towards graduation" are apropos. What
you want to
> > > > >>>>>> list
> > > here
> > > > >>> is
> > > > >>>>>> things blocking graduation. IMO this is two things;
1) put
> > > > >>>>>> out
> > > more
> > > > >>>>> releases,
> > > > >>>>>> and 2) build community (of which 2 is more important
at
> > > > >>>>>> this
> > > point)
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> 2) I think you should also include mention of
a PPMC member
> > > > requesting
> > > > >>>>>> that the podling be retired - and the results
of that
> > discussion.
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> Patrick
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Joe Brockmeier
> > > > >>>>>> <jzb@zonker.net>
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Matthieu
Morel wrote:
> > > > >>>>>>>> Thanks for the effort! That looks good
to me, except
> > > > >>>>>>>> maybe
> > that
> > > in
> > > > >>> my
> > > > >>>>>>>> view the real issue about graduation
is the activity.
> > > > >>>>>>>> Adding
> > > more
> > > > >>>>>>>> requirements will only raise up the bar
for graduation.
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> I think the IPMC would expect to see a more
active and
> > > > >>> self-governing
> > > > >>>>>>> project before voting for graduation, whether
or not the
> > podling
> > > > >>> puts
> > > > >>>>>>> that down as an issue. (See:
> > > > >>>>>>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#communi
> > > > >>>>>>> ty)
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> Best,
> > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>>> jzb
> > > > >>>>>>> --
> > > > >>>>>>> Joe Brockmeier
> > > > >>>>>>> jzb@zonker.net
> > > > >>>>>>> Twitter: @jzb
> > > > >>>>>>> http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >


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