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From "FPJ" <fpjunque...@yahoo.com>
Subject RE: draft of ASF board report
Date Mon, 02 Sep 2013 08:43:24 GMT
I'm not sure we are on the same page. We have had a couple of threads now about graduation
and the threads started with someone from the IPMC asking us about it. Given that we haven't
been able to conclude what to do with respect to graduation (that's my conclusion out of the
message threads), I would suggest we explain it in the report. To perhaps rephrase what I
already  said, activity has been low but we got some developers standing up and stating they
would keep the project going. Given that there is some revived interest, I suggest we keep
the project alive and see how it evolves during the next 3 months. I think all this should
figure in the report.

I'm also fine to have Joe as a mentor if he is interested. Do we need to have a PPMC vote
for this?

About the status page, it is our page. We should look into updating it. I remember having
some discussion about updating it, but I can't recall what happened.

About the podling name, we have created a jira a while back and it is not resolved yet:

	https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-10

About a new committer, we voted Daniel Gómez Ferro a committer. It is in one of the quarterly
reports I have sent previously.

-Flavio

> -----Original Message-----
> From: olegtikhonov@gmail.com [mailto:olegtikhonov@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Oleg Tikhonov
> Sent: 02 September 2013 06:05
> To: s4-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: draft of ASF board report
> 
> Thanks, valuable feedbacks are, indeed.
> 
> @Flavio - agree with Joe, it's not about graduation, it's about inactivity.
> Fortunately, the S4 community was & is biting & kicking.
> On the other hand, it's my personal opinion, any "project in incubator"
> must tend to be TLP.
> 
> About mentoring - Good mentor is worth for the project, and for sure
> he/she should be responsive. If Joe would like to step up as a mentor - so be
> it, IMO.
> 
> @Joe
> "Note that the community has also been failing to keep the incubator status
> page up to date. The last status report listed was from 2012, but there have
> been status reports since. IIRC, someone has been added as a committer,
> but is not listed yet under project info. The last release
> (0.6.0) is not listed on the incubator status page either."
> 
> Who can fix that? Or how to fix it?
> 
> >Has the podling name search been completed?
> May be open the JIRA for the issue? Definitely we should accomplish the task
> ASAP.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Oleg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Joe Brockmeier <jzb@zonker.net> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Sep 1, 2013, at 03:50 PM, Flavio Junqueira wrote:
> > > Thanks for putting it together, Oleg. Here are some suggestions for
> > > two parts of the proposal:
> > >
> > > - Any issued the IPMC should be aware of: I would include two things
> > > here. First, we have been asked about graduation. We haven't been
> > > able to conclude whether we should graduate or not. One particular
> > > problem we have been having is with growth of the community. I would
> > > say that in a recent e-mail thread, we have received very positive
> > > feedback from some developers, so we would like to remain in
> > > incubation for a little longer so that we can get some traction.
> > > Second, one of our mentors hasn't been responsive, so we need to find
> another mentor.
> >
> > I think the primary issue here is not graduation, per se, it's the
> > inactivity. It doesn't seem to me there's much going on in the S4
> > community. In March, the dev mailing list was reasonably busy (132
> > messages) and then that's dwindled to less than 35 per month since
> > March.
> >
> > There was no activity in git on August at all. A little in July, more
> > in June.
> >
> > *If* there's enough interest on the community side to keep the project
> > going, then I'd be happy to step up as a mentor. Right now, I'm very
> > concerned that the project lacks a diverse/large enough community to
> > remain healthy.
> >
> > Note that the community has also been failing to keep the incubator
> > status page up to date. The last status report listed was from 2012,
> > but there have been status reports since. IIRC, someone has been added
> > as a committer, but is not listed yet under project info. The last
> > release
> > (0.6.0) is not listed on the incubator status page either.
> >
> > Also: Has the podling name search been completed? I saw that
> > referenced on another report, and it's still listed as needed on the status
> page.
> > This needs to be completed if it hasn't been.
> >
> > > - Has the community developed since the last report? I would say
> > > that we have been seeing some traffic on the mailing lists, mostly
> > > questions about how to use S4, but the code contributions have been
> fairly minimal.
> >
> > It looks to me like the community has actually shrunk since the last
> > report, but I could be missing something.
> >
> > Would like to see S4 turn this around and grow its community and get
> > ready to graduate, but I think graduation would be premature at this
> > point.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > jzb
> > --
> > Joe Brockmeier
> > jzb@zonker.net
> > Twitter: @jzb
> > http://www.dissociatedpress.net/
> >


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