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From Mike Scott <>
Subject Re: Macros are a pain to use
Date Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:29:46 GMT
On 16/07/12 22:53, Fernando Cassia wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Dale Erwin <> wrote:
>> It took me quite a while to figure out how to make the assignment, but I
>> finally did it, and it's working great.
> It is called "learning". The first time I used MS WinWord 2.5 it also
> "took me quite a while" to undersand how to align paragraphs.
> For some reason, today´s users demand instant magical solutions,
> without learning, which, sadly, takes some time... I blame it on the
> iPhone and the dumbing down of user interfaces...
> Don´t get me wrong, nothing personal, I´m just making a general
> observation about software users´ expectations...
> I also remember when the "F1" key was used for "help". and pressing
> "F1" instantly brought you help relative to the context where the
> keypress happened (ie in IBM OS/2).
> I notice it also works in OO, but while there´s an entry about "record
> macros" there is nothing about "assign macros to a hotkey". There´s
> room for improvement there...

I don't disagree with you.

But when offering advice like this, I generally try the solution out 
myself as I type - just so I can be sure of what I'm saying.  Even 
though I've tried this before, I had to google to find the exact 
dialogue box name, and then the dialogue box is so confusing, I got it 
wrong at first.

Having looked again, I'd suggest:-
1. the macros are tucked out-of-window at the bottom of a box labelled 
"functions" (IMO they're the most likely candidates for use, so should 
be at the top), and the tag ' Macros' is so long it spills 
out of the 'Functions' box (unclear - the most important word is chopped 
2. It takes seconds for the tree there to expand - so long, that it 
looks as though it doesn't. (Why so slow?)
3. having selected the required macro, you do /not/ click on the nearby 
OK button. You have to go back to the other half of the box in the 
almost diagonally opposite corner and hit 'modify' Then 'OK'. (Breaks 
the Principle of Least Surprise)

And while I think about it, how does the tag ' Macros' 
relate to the radio buttons top-right ('' and 'Writer')? 
(rhetorical!) And is the scope of the keystroke assignment all of OOo, 
just writer, or just this document, and what happens if I assign a macro 
defined in just this document? (Again, rhetorical). These things should 
be clearer.

Oh, and as regards the help information, the help entry for 'scripting' (from the 'find' tab) says vaguely where to look: the 
details for "You will see..." are quite wrong though. But nothing under 
either of the 'macro' entries in 'find'.

It could use some redesign, I reckon.

Just my 2d worth.

(OOo 3.2/ubuntu 10.04, btw)

Mike Scott
Harlow, Essex, England

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