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Subject: RE: Hong Kong Distributor (Free Software-Free CD-ROM)
Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 14:14:02 -0700
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There was an indiscriminate posting of an e-mail from info@ =
softwaredistributor.info to multiple lists.  The post wasn't moderated =
onto this list.  But anyone subscribed to this list who "Replied All =
..." to its appearance on another list would have cross-posted here too.

The easiest place to see the thread is on the ooo-marketing list at < =
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-marketing/201205.m=
box/date>.

Basically, a distributor of OO.o on CD-ROM wants to have their listing =
changed on an old OpenOffice.org page that lists such distributors.

This was solved by Andrea removing the listing entirely.  I say that's =
appropriate. =20

How to clean up the distribution of CD-ROMs and vet the list is being =
discussed on the ooo-dev@ list [;<).

It would be useful to know what users think about CD-ROM distributions =
too. =20

 - Dennis

MORE THOUGHTS

My personal concern is that there are difficulties knowing the =
authenticity and integrity of such materials when provided by third =
parties.  These days, that can expose users to malware and more-serious =
exploits. =20

One thought would be for CD-ROM ISO images to be available from the =
project or some other single, highly-reliable source.  Those could be =
recorded and redistributed by anyone so long as there is appropriate =
identification of their origin and how to verify that.  There would need =
to be authentication and integrity measures on those CDs so folks could =
detect whether they have a legitimate one, especially when =
troubleshooting and reporting problems.

Others will still do their own CD-ROM packaging; it is completely =
permissible under open-source distribution conditions.  There is nothing =
to be done about who assures the authenticity of those independent =
distributions and who stands up to support them (or not).  I don't think =
Apache OpenOffice should be in the business of linking to such producers =
and it would be nice if those distributions included how the producer =
will provide first-line support.

That's my personal perspective.  This is probably more-appropriate on =
ooo-dev, but I thought power users here might have an interest also. =20

-----Original Message-----
From: Scooter C [mailto:scooter@scootersdesk.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 13:03
To: ooo-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Distributor (Free Software-Free CD-ROM)

What IS this email about? It makes no sense.

Take Care.
Scooter
College Park, MD USA

Andrea Pescetti wrote   on 5/6/2012 8:40 AM:
> info@softwaredistributor.info wrote:
>> Re:Hong Kong Distributor (Free Software-Free CD-ROM)
>> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html
>> Please Change my website URL from
>> http://www.networkowned.com (Domain illegally transferred to other=20
>> account)
>> to
>> http://www.softwaredistributor.info
>
> (You wrote to two public mailing lists: see
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-users/
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-ooo-marketing/ )
>
> OK, we have two issues here.
>
> The first one is to remove the existing link for Hong Kong, which=20
> points to a patently unrelated site (first external link above). This=20
> is now solved at =
http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html
>
> The second one would be to add the new "community distributor", i.e.,=20
> your last URL above. But this site has some stuff that can keep=20
> Trademarks (in CC) busy for a while (examples: logo of Apache=20
> OpenOffice 3.4 while actually distributing version 3.3, some quite=20
> unrelated links at the bottom of page, trademarks not acknowledged)=20
> and we might want to deeply restructure the
> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html
> page a few weeks after version 3.4 is released. So I don't feel=20
> confident in adding the link before we hear from Trademarks that it is =

> OK to do so.
>
> A lot of other sites already listed at
> http://www.openoffice.org/distribution/cdrom/index.html
> have the same issue.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
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