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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: A moderator's view of this list [was: Re: I Hate Your Product]
Date Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:42:12 GMT
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 6:21 PM, NoOp <glgxg@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> On 03/31/2012 08:50 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
> > At 16:15 31/03/2012 +0100, Mike Scott wrote:
> >>And I've not found a way on the new list of seeing who's subscribed,
> >>and who not.
> >
> > Look for the header:
> > Delivered-To: moderator for ooo-users@incubator.apache.org
> >
> > I trust this helps.
> >
> > Brian Barker
>
> Brian, there is an issue with Mozilla users (Thunderbird and SeaMonkey)
> and duplicate header filters:
>
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=678322
> [Filters not working for headers that can appear more than once (except
> Received: header. if Received:, multiple headers are processed as
> expected))]
>
> The moderated messages on this list provide two 'Delivered-To:' headers:
> Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-users@incubator.apache.org
> Delivered-To: moderator for ooo-users@incubator.apache.org
>
> So until that bug is resolved (or the list software puts the moderator
> header before the mailing list header), the Mozilla users will need to
> go back to examining each header individually.
>
> Opera users have a similar issue: if you add the 'Delivered-To:' header,
> only the first 'Delivered-To:' (Delivered-To: mailing list
> ooo-users@incubator.apache.org) is displayed in the header view.
>
>
Gmail has a similar issue.  It can only filter on the first Delivered-To
header.


> So we're back to asking each user (or at least those using Mozilla
> and/or Opera) to examine each full header to determine if the poster is
> subscribed or not.
>
> A few years ago, on the OOo list I proposed having the list software (or
> moderator) add a '[Moderated]' tag in the subject header. Pretty much
> every newsreader and email client can filter by Subject. A adding the
> '[Moderated]' tag would eliminate the need to examine (or filter)
> headers. Unfortunately, that suggested ended up in the dev/null bucket:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=6286
>  https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=6286#c24
>
>
>
Well, we have different software now.  The old infrastructure was SYMPA
mailing list server.  At Apache we're using ezmlm.   I'm not sure if the
capabilities include doing what you describe, but it is worth checking.

-Rob

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