From ooo-users-return-529-apmail-incubator-ooo-users-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Fri Jan 13 23:10:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 421C399B3 for ; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 85646 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jan 2012 23:10:36 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-users-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 85497 invoked by uid 500); 13 Jan 2012 23:10:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-users-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-users@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-users@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 85488 invoked by uid 99); 13 Jan 2012 23:10:35 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:10:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_REPLY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of dave2wave@comcast.net designates 76.96.30.24 as permitted sender) Received: from [76.96.30.24] (HELO qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net) (76.96.30.24) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:10:26 +0000 Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MAit1i0020EPchoA2BA4z9; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:10:04 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.74] ([99.46.168.159]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MB9u1i01p3SgvM78MB9xqV; Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:10:02 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: OOo, ODF 1.2 extended format and Word: is the possibility to open OOo generated file by word ed as bug? From: Dave Fisher In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 15:09:54 -0800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <579A95F5-A1D0-4E44-81ED-8A9F90BEE50F@comcast.net> References: <001e01ccd1cb$504fe000$f0efa000$@fr> <1326455772.30145.9.camel@dan-ubuntu> <003301ccd1ec$e8f04810$bad0d830$@fr> <1326458567.30145.28.camel@dan-ubuntu> To: ooo-users@incubator.apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Jan 13, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > Hi Dan, >=20 > Your easy conclusion that LibreOffice is at fault is wrong. Please see=20= > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D44498 > and > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3D115789 >=20 > You'll see that this is indeed a reflection of a bug in MS Word that = is avoided in OOo because of a bug in OOo 3.3 ("Files from = OpenOffice.org Writer fail the validation at the OpenOffice validation = site allegedly because the manifest:manifest (root) tag in the = META-INF/manifest.xml file lacks a version attribute.") =20 >=20 > Given this is a bug in MS Word, it is best avoided both in LibreOffice = and in a future AOO release by using a format that MS Word handles = correctly such as .DOC or ODF 1.1, unless Microsoft issues a patch. Has the TDF contacted Microsoft to report this bug? On two occasions where the Apache POI community discovered trouble we've = been able to contact them. In the first case they patched the problem in = less than one month. Regards, Dave >=20 > S. >=20 > On 13 Jan 2012, at 12:42, Dan Lewis wrote: >=20 >> =46rom what you wrote, there is no bug in OOo. OOo clearly creates >> documents that Word 2007 can read. The problem is with LibreOffice: = it >> is the one with the bug. OOo and LibreOffice are not the same. >> LibreOffice is a fork of OOo meaning it has the same basic computer >> code, but it also has some computer code that differs from OOo. The = bug >> seems to be located in the computer code that differs from OOo. >> If you want to use LibreOffice when sending documents to people >> having Word 2007, you will need to wait until LibreOffice fixes the = bug. >> However, as you pointed out, you can use OOo 3.3.3 now. Why not = continue >> using OOo? >>=20 >> --Dan=20 >>=20 >> On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 13:14 +0100, Jacek wrote: >>> Word 2007 has no issue to open OOo created ODF 1.2 extended file. As = I was told that it's because of a bug of OOo, I fear that in the future = the bug will be fixed and the possibility of opening the OOo file when = default format is used will be lost (as it is the case with LibOffice, = today). >>>=20 >>> I would like to recommend to some Association members I work with, = to use Open Office, but they are not the ones who can change OOo = settings or play with output file format. For me, it is a mean to = introduce in their environment some "libre" software. But, it will work = only and only, if they have no issue when exchanging the files with = external world.=20 >>> For the time being they use Word, but as they have to upgrade their = computers, I planned to recommend, at first LibOffice. As I found the = LibOffice issue with word, I tried OOo.=20 >>> I was happy that there were no issue with word to open OOo 3.3.3 = created file till the moment I was told that this is a bug in OOo and = that this bug will be fixed... >>>=20 >>> Bregs >>>=20 >>> Jacek >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> -----Message d'origine----- >>> De : Dan Lewis [mailto:elderdanlewis@gmail.com]=20 >>> Envoy=E9 : vendredi 13 janvier 2012 12:56 >>> =C0 : ooo-users@incubator.apache.org >>> Objet : Re: OOo, ODF 1.2 extended format and Word: is the = possibility to open OOo generated file by word ed as bug? >>>=20 >>> On Fri, 2012-01-13 at 09:14 +0100, Jacek wrote: >>>> Hello, >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I tried to open ODF 1.2 extended format file generated by LibOffice=20= >>>> using Word 2007 and this didn't work properly. >>>>=20 >>>> I tried OOo 3.3.3 and I had no issue to open ODF 1.2 extended file=20= >>>> generated by it using word. >>>>=20 >>>> Someone told me that I was successful in opening OOo created file = in=20 >>>> word because of a bug in OOo. And he added that this bug would be=20= >>>> fixed in the future. >>>>=20 >>>> Is this statement correct? Am I able to open OOo created file = because=20 >>>> of bug? If so, is this "bug", which allows Word 2007 to open OOo=20 >>>> generated file, going to be fix, i.e. is OOo going to generate the=20= >>>> files, which will be difficult to open with Word or other Microsoft = Office modules? >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Is this the right forum to ask this question? If not, please let me=20= >>>> know where it should be asked. >>>=20 >>>> Best regards >>>=20 >>>> Jacek >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> The problem may be with Word 2007. ODF 1.2 extended was created = after Word 2007 so Word 2007 does not know how to handle the changes = made when the open document format went from ODF 1.1 to ODF 1.2 = extended. There has been some comments on this mailing list earlier = about MS Office not handling ODF 1.2 extended. >>> Work around: open the document in OOo. Change the ODF setting. >>> (Tools > Options > Load/Save > General ) Then use save As to save = the document as ODF 1.0/1.1. >>>=20 >>> --Dan >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ooo-users-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: ooo-users-help@incubator.apache.org >>>=20 >>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ooo-users-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: ooo-users-help@incubator.apache.org >>>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: ooo-users-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: ooo-users-help@incubator.apache.org >>=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: ooo-users-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: ooo-users-help@incubator.apache.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ooo-users-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: ooo-users-help@incubator.apache.org