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From Terry <>
Subject Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache Branding...
Date Fri, 28 Oct 2011 00:02:00 GMT
Thanks, Rob.  Yes, I was able to send yesterday but messages are being bounced today.Regards,
P.S.  Sorry about emailing you personally.  That should not have happened and I don't know
why it did.

>From: Rob Weir <>
>To:; Terry <>
>Sent: Friday, 28 October 2011 10:49 AM
>Subject: Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache Branding...
>On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Terry <> wrote:
>> Hi, floris
>> I mistook David's email as one on the marketing mail list.  The topic of re-branding
is being discussed there.  I was about to suggest people subscribe to that list but I noticed
while composing this reply that an email I sent to the list has just been bounced.  If you
want to subscribe notwithstanding, the address to subscribe is
>> Regards, Terry
>> P.S.  I forwarded the mailer-daemon email to the marketing list's owner and that
also has now bounced.
>Terry,  you are subscribed to the ooo-marketing list.   I see a post
>by you from yesterday.  So something is working.  Make sure you are
>posting to
>>>From: floris v <>
>>>Sent: Friday, 28 October 2011 9:38 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache Branding...
>>>Op 27-10-2011 23:52, Terry schreef:
>>>> I do not understand the point Michael made in that email.  Is he suggesting
that no version number be used?
>>>> Terry
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: David H. Lipman<DLipman@Verizon.Net>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> Sent: Friday, 28 October
>>  2011 1:44 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Proposal] Change in Apache Branding...
>>>>> From: "Michael Acevedo"<>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I have been reading the OOo forum and first let me congratulate the
Apache OOo team in
>>>>>> completing the transition of the source code earlier this month.
As for my proposal, it
>>>>>> stems from one statement made in the Forums indicating
>>>>>> "Fundamentally,
>>>>>> as a project "" is done." If the following is true
I think it creates a
>>>>>> great opportunity to refresh the brand. My proposal
has the following
>>>>>> provision: -
>>>>>> Drop the "3" or "3.4" suffix from the name and either
leave the office
>>  suite name as "Apache" or "Apache 4 * The rationale
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> provision is the fact that the OOo code will undergo (or has
>>>>>> undergone substantial rewriting) to allow the source code to be compliant
with the
>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>> 2.0. licence scheme. * Furthermore, IBM's decision to donate Lotus
Symphony to Apache
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> most likely result in a "code merger" with the Apache OpenOffice
project which will
>>>>>> result
>>>>>> in a very altered (compared to today's) source code.
Well that's the
>>>>>> basic
>>>>>> idea behind proposal and I think the brand refresh will be beneficial
for the Apache OOo
>>>>>> project.
>>>>>> Again, thank you for your time and keep up the good work!
>>>>> I agree with all aspects of what Michael suggests and has
>>  stated.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dave
>>>With lots of rewriting and going back to old
>>  software like myspell any
>>>version number seems to me a very dubious affair. You might just as well
>>>restart with Apache OOo 1.0. A higher version number suggests, after
>>>all, that the developers built on an older version and added stuff and
>>>removed bugs. Here the story is very different. It's probably my biggest
>>>objection to this rebranding: there are quite a few annoying bugs and
>>>shortcomings that have plagued users for years, and instead of tackling
>>>those, the developers are discarding stuff that works in favour of old
>>>software that may not work quite as well. Really.
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