Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBE4ED727 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 9240 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2012 08:36:16 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-ooo-marketing-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 9094 invoked by uid 500); 25 Oct 2012 08:36:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ooo-marketing-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 8950 invoked by uid 99); 25 Oct 2012 08:36:14 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:36:14 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,LOTS_OF_MONEY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of ianrlynch@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.54 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.54] (HELO mail-qa0-f54.google.com) (209.85.216.54) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 08:36:08 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id p27so2285704qat.6 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:35:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DOE8h6I0f3kQVMV0gBzws3FMJP8AspuX4hMpDqvtCo0=; b=ZnvQjW4+2SLYnQXcjUhZBMDr0ZfY5Rl2s48YUAJmACrtPDUdjnp1aEtxw9PHijhXVp OTKJyGY34R1UMjcGxXvrX3XXySGPTMPEJ6NTjsgYxtd0R8V+B/xwJdeWpsicfi7jUZoE US3FzqBWMCUhVQTvlLNKzST6eYgj3gqyOdSh39smNF3KdlziS7/GcC3GyMSOknpCb8EY l+6jbUm52oSsuvoLPyNgNcj61JfMDB0npTjDv4UpmMPRo1qhnSdel6Caj0l2sfJdFKEp 1d+8O9xGNX80h0xmRXgHlJt5ObavGDvcW/9kz4GC/FVW34z05c9D/NqcK0bTbvHPqTR5 2qLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.60.6 with SMTP id n6mr8409657qah.62.1351154147344; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:35:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.35.212 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Oct 2012 01:35:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5087D226.7040509@gmail.com> <5088E9B1.8070101@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:35:47 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: AOO Logo concepts From: Ian Lynch To: ooo-marketing@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3074d6c4fd41e504ccde1628 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf3074d6c4fd41e504ccde1628 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 25 October 2012 09:24, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 8:26 PM, J=FCrgen Schmidt >wrote: > > > On 10/25/12 8:56 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:33 AM, J=FCrgen Schmidt < > jogischmidt@gmail.com > > >wrote: > > > > > >> On 10/24/12 12:38 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > >>> Just going to put this logo concepts right here, still very rough > > >> concepts: > > >>> http://imagebin.org/233080 > > >>> concpet 2 > > >>> http://imagebin.org/233081 > > >>> concept 3 (incomplete) > > >>> http://imagebin.org/233082 > > >>> > > >> > > >> to be honest, I think they are all horrible. I don't understand what > are > > >> you trying to achieve with this concept drafts. > > >> > > >> Juergen > > >> > > > > > > To be honest I think your statement is horrible and I understand that > you > > > won't achieve anything by it. > > > > > > "Horrible" is a statement of personal taste and really has nothing to > do > > > with what is trying to be achieved. In other words if you can't be > > > objective then step away from the keyboard. > > > > exactly and it was simply my personal opinion about the images. Well I > > tend to say what I am thinking. Next time I will simply write a -1 or > > --1;-) > > > > When we design a new logo, it should look modern, it should look new an= d > > it should be professional. I am sure that some people have the skills t= o > > create such a logo. But I also know that it is not so easy. > > > > But in these drafts I see nothing, I see that somebody played with a > > graphic program yes but nothing else. I can do the same but the result > > will probably the same. > > > > This is the logo of the largest telecommunications company in NZ > > http://www.designassembly.org.nz/articles/telecom-reveals-new-logo Wonder what that cost? :-) Much the same of what you said was said about it. However the proof has > been in the pudding and is arguably the most recognised brand in NZ after > Coke and the golden arches. Subjective has nothing to do with brand, it'= s > about creating recognition. One of the problems with OSS projects is tha= t > branding is often the result of subjective reaction like yours without > consideration of brand impact. Frankly I don't care if the community > "likes" it or not, the prime consideration should be how it performs as a > brand. > > Does it demand attention > Is it Unique > Is it instantly recognisable > Rob's idea of a competition worked before when we did Otto the schools mascot. It was a controversial image but in a way that helped because it generated debate and raised its profile. Did you see the logo for the London Olympics? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Summer_Olympics Cost =A3400,000! The good thing about holding a competition is that it has a chance of gaining wider publicity outside the normal community. Publicise to all the art colleges and schools as they are always looking for a focus for students. That then publicises AOO in the education market place. Needs some careful planning because it needs enough time to get the competition out and time to do the design and then to judge. If there are a lot of entries it could also take some time to sift through them. and then > > Does it appeal to the target audience > Is it globally appropriate. > > > > > > > > I would start to collect some ideas and basic elements what a new logo > > should contain, where we want use the logo and do we need. > > > > > There is nothing that a logo "needs" to contain, any idea is worth > consideration, needs and use are secondary to the brand of which the logo > is a very small part. Every idea could be the germ that leads to the > greater idea. For instance I see in Alexandro's fifth proposal the seeds > of a new pallet. There is a vibrance in the mix that has some kick to it= . > Never dismiss, always look for the stand out idea. > > Cheers > GL > > > > > > Juergen > > > > > > > > > --=20 Ian Ofqual Accredited IT Qualifications (The Schools ITQ) www.theINGOTs.org +44 (0)1827 305940 The Learning Machine Limited, Reg Office, 36 Ashby Road, Tamworth, Staffordshire, B79 8AQ. 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